British army will have pulled out of Iraq by June 2009

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

You heard me. Two SAS (Special Air Service) men got caught red handed in Basra dressed as arabs terrorizing the place. There is video and all, look it up. They were fanning the flames of sectarian violence I see. I guess the place had settled down too much and need some "encouragement".

A generic definition of terrorism is killing civilians to achieve political ends. Well Britian is guilty of that. Not the first time Britian has spilled blood in the region, I believe Churchill in World War 1 realized the importance of that black gold and sent troops.

So the actions of two SAS men is the basis of your judgement of my country's entire military force?

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

So the actions of two SAS men is the basis of your judgement of my country's entire military force?

No, it's a judgement of your countries leadership. This is hardly the actions of "two men". This was an SAS black op gone bad. I've only known one British guy, nice guy but he would not fart without asking his leaders if it was ok. Ironically they go to Iraq to fight terrorists and do some of the terrorizing themselves. Bad day for the SAS there. Must have been embarrasing getting caught running a false flag operation like that. Those SAS men were not acting on their own obviously or they would be sitting in prison.

Just think that ten years ago there would not be an internet that would let such unpleasant things out into the open. Ten years ago this would have been easy to coverup, just prevent the major media outlets from releasing the video. Now thanks to the internet all those potential government coverups bypass all the censorship and get viewed worldwide.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

No, it's a judgement of your countries leadership. I've only known one British guy, nice guy but he would not fart without asking his leaders if it was ok. Ironically they go to Iraq to fight terrorists and do some of the terrorizing themselves. Bad day for the SAS there. Must have been embarrasing getting caught running a false flag operation like that. Those SAS men were not acting on their own obviously or they would be sitting in prison.

Just think that ten years ago there would not be an internet that would let such unpleasant things out into the open. Ten years ago this would have been easy to coverup, just prevent the major media outlets from releasing the video. Now thanks to the internet all those potential government coverups bypass all the censorship and get viewed worldwide.

I'll be the first to admit this country's leadership leaves alot to be desired, but I dont appreciate the British army being accused of terrorism. Where are you from, that you may make such judgements of others?

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

I'll be the first to admit this country's leadership leaves alot to be desired, but I dont appreciate the British army being accused of terrorism. Where are you from, that you may make such judgements of others?

Did you even watch the video? Did you google this incident online. I'm from America so I know all about how governments will kill civilians and blame it on the "bad guys".

Britians 7-7 had a terrorism exercise going on that very same morning. On 9-11 there was a terrorism exercise going on that very morning. Wow, what a coincidence.

Funny how the terrorists strike right when the US and British government just happen to be around the corner conducting an "exercise".

[XabbaRus]

Oh boy, more conspiricy claptrap yea we had an anti-terror op on at the same time so we must have set the whole thing up stuff....

Actually I have googled and it seems the SAS guys where actually spying on a commander suspected of torturing people in jail

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...rturer%27.html

[clive bradbury]

I am a pretty easy-going bloke, generally, and it takes a lot to get me angry, but I am now. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm just about sick of a certain section of shallow, ignorant Americans spouting off about situations they know absolutely nothing about. We have too many on this forum , to be sure, and I wish that the majority of balanced, thoughtful Americans would condemn them too.

What I love about this particular scenario is that the ignoramus in question states how important the internet is for revealing information, but then believes the first video he sees without looking more deeply into the actual event. In fact, on the same u-tube page is another clip which explains the real situation, and the fact that a year later that particular police station was demolished by the British Army becuse the police based there were torturing and terrorising residents (their own people) in the region - and it was to gather this information that the SAS men were there in first place.

[Frame57]

Yes! The british have contributed honorably in the Iraqi situation. they are honorable and to have this maggot post his garbage here is a disgrace...

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by clive bradbury

I am a pretty easy-going bloke, generally, and it takes a lot to get me angry, but I am now. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm just about sick of a certain section of shallow, ignorant Americans spouting off about situations they know absolutely nothing about. We have too many on this forum , to be sure, and I wish that the majority of balanced, thoughtful Americans would condemn them too.

What I love about this particular scenario is that the ignoramus in question states how important the internet is for revealing information, but then believes the first video he sees without looking more deeply into the actual event. In fact, on the same u-tube page is another clip which explains the real situation, and the fact that a year later that particular police station was demolished by the British Army becuse the police based there were torturing and terrorising residents (their own people) in the region - and it was to gather this information that the SAS men were there in first place.

You sound like Napolean from George Orwell's book Animal Farm. No no children, those men were not killing innocent people, they were trying to kill the "bad guys", you don't want Mr Jones to come back do you?

You would make a good citizen in a George Orwell story. The internet is very important because for the first time in history the "official" government avalanche of lies is totally bypassed.

Get used to it for I am the peasant with a pitchfork of modern times. We are armed with information this time which is far more dangerous than pitchforks. Afterall this is the information age.