Side discussion on religon from Mumbai thread

[Vinay]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

If you think that the wrong-doings of a thousand people constitute the feelings and opinions of 1.3 billion, you've got some serious ****ing problems with math.

And also take note that the Muslims in the 7th century were perfecting the arts and sciences while the Christians were burning heretics and witches. I'll say it again, it was no different to the Christians or Jews. ALL RELIGIONS (except for Buddhism) believe that if you are not following their belief system, you are an infidel...

You got something wrong. All religions are not like that. There are many religions that is against any kind of violence. Buddhism and Jainism is like that. Hinduism and Sikhism has strict moral code of conduct and will not take up arms because others don't belive in your religion. They are supposed to take up arms if someone attacks you. Like if the Jihadis are attacking you because they don't like you, then you have all the right to take up arms and defend yourself to make sure that Truth, justice and righteousness prevails for a peaceful world. Jewism and Christianity has changed a lot and with each passing day these relgions are becoming more and more progressive because the people are not as religious as before and thought process is given a major share rather than religious books. Especially the world also saw the rise of atheism. All this is a sign of progress of humanity.

A lot of changes has taken in the Islamic world as well, but the foundation is not changed and hence Islam is a big problem. The Wahabbis still call the shots in the Islamic world. Until Mecca and Medina are liberated from the hands of the fundamentalists and handed over to the moderates, you will see a violent Islam. Muslims may be. But they were doing it not because Islam said them to do that but their original faiths (the so called pagan faiths were like that like , pre Islamic Egyptian, Zoroastianism etc) The true version of Islam is the Taliban. That is Islam and what you achieve in an truly Islamic state is this