Slam Obama (merged)

10-10-08, 09:18 AM

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And what? Why is it that as soon as someone displays any sort of left leanings, they are branded a socialist or communist and that is seen as bad. So I guess Europe must be bad, as it is essentially social democratic.

Subman you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

That may well be what Europe is or is based on, but the United States of America is supposed to be based on the Rule of Law (fudimently different), that no man or entity of man is suppose to be above. That is why it is a Republic. Read the Feseralist Papers, the Anti-Federalist Papers, and Common Sense. That is what we're supposed to have, but men are corruptable.
So if a nation is based on the Rule of Law, Individual Liberty, and the Right to own Property, how can Socialism, or Communism coexist? Since they are the opposite of it. And while we're at it, Fascism isn't that much different as it applies the same principle government rule.

But what gets me is how Communism/Socialism is called the far left, and Fascism is called the far Right. To be more accurate as they are all totalitarian in nature, they should all be on one side of the scale, not opposites. The other side is Liberty. But the US of A is not so far as to say anarchy, as it is tempered by laws. These are set in the Constution and Bill of Rights.

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You know, I was actually planning on answering to this post. But the more I read it, the more illogical and uneducated it becomes, to the point that I have no idea where to start anymore. I'd probably had to explain the differences between communism, socialism, capitalism, social capitalism, law in general, what constitutes a republic..basicly every term you threw in and mixed up here, first.

Seriously, go get a good book about different ideologies and what defines them. Your post more or less reads like a guy that watched too much Fox News without bothering to ever read up on the terms used there.

Sorry, I don't watch Fox News. The info I do have comes from books. Papers, pamphlets, and a long list of historical documents. But to undrstand the US of A, one has to understand the foundations first. And what set it aside from the rest of the world.

I am pretty much aware of the US foundations. I'd also say I understand the american mindset, which, in principle, I even admire for it's independence and positive outlook to the future and the US' strong emphasisis on individual responsebility, some of what most of the EU countries could use a bit more temselves.

That does not change the fact, however, that the terms used by you are completly dissorted in their meaning and in parts pitted against each other or thrown together in ways that make absolutely no sense, neither from a political nor economical POV.

Labelling socialism as lacking law, for exaple, is so off it boggles the mind, and makes only sense if you take the far right capitalistic government system of the US as the absolute truth. Which of course, it is not, like anything else on this planet based on ideology.