The Irish have Europe's future in their hands

Respenus · 06-13-08, 07:07 AM

Skybird, have you ever considered the fact, that the Lisbon treaty allows members to exit the EU, if they want to? I say force Lisbon to the Irish and if they don't like what they get, they can always exit.

Of course such an action will without doubt cause a catastrophe and a chain reaction in the EU, and those who would remain as a political body will be even stronger. For others, there's always EFTA.

I admit I haven't read any of your comments, due to time constraits (I'll be sure to read them in the future). Yet I ask you this. Did you mind the 10 new member states joining the EU and now Schengen? If not, then what's your problem now? Nice was build for 25 members, we now have 27 and the EU as an institution cannot function within rules it has now. It has to modernise. So what if the EU might have a vote on two or three extra subject over national parliaments. You can always exit. Or you can always get 1M signatures and get something changed.

I'm not ashamed to say this. 50+ years of peace and economic growth are without precedent in WORLD history, yet alone European, which has seen bloody carnage in the 20th century. So what if we have to sacrifice a couple of liberties over who gets to fish somewhere and what our farmers are going to grow! As long as we are ALL fed, with a roof over our heads and a hope for the future, we're set to go.

This is the natural order of things Skybird. The world has to go on and before you know it, EU will become a confederation. With a good reason. What is important is the cultural difference that will remain at the same level as it is now. No Serbian will change your culture, nor will a French mine. This is important. "United in diversity!" What's so different with Germany? A band of united countries, not a SINGLE one. This is the EU.

I rest my case for now and I'll enjoy any response you will give me.

06-13-08, 07:07 AM	#15
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Skybird, have you ever considered the fact, that the Lisbon treaty allows members to exit the EU, if they want to? I say force Lisbon to the Irish and if they don't like what they get, they can always exit. Of course such an action will without doubt cause a catastrophe and a chain reaction in the EU, and those who would remain as a political body will be even stronger. For others, there's always EFTA. I admit I haven't read any of your comments, due to time constraits (I'll be sure to read them in the future). Yet I ask you this. Did you mind the 10 new member states joining the EU and now Schengen? If not, then what's your problem now? Nice was build for 25 members, we now have 27 and the EU as an institution cannot function within rules it has now. It has to modernise. So what if the EU might have a vote on two or three extra subject over national parliaments. You can always exit. Or you can always get 1M signatures and get something changed. I'm not ashamed to say this. 50+ years of peace and economic growth are without precedent in WORLD history, yet alone European, which has seen bloody carnage in the 20th century. So what if we have to sacrifice a couple of liberties over who gets to fish somewhere and what our farmers are going to grow! As long as we are ALL fed, with a roof over our heads and a hope for the future, we're set to go. This is the natural order of things Skybird. The world has to go on and before you know it, EU will become a confederation. With a good reason. What is important is the cultural difference that will remain at the same level as it is now. No Serbian will change your culture, nor will a French mine. This is important. "United in diversity!" What's so different with Germany? A band of united countries, not a SINGLE one. This is the EU. I rest my case for now and I'll enjoy any response you will give me. __________________