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Old 07-09-07, 09:56 AM   #14
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I like the bit where he implied that the homeless and destitute are that way because of their own fault. Its especially good because that was the "however" added to the necessary acknowledgement that there are people that don't get the care they deserve.

And there was a big point about how everyone gets care thats almost as good as insurance payers. But nobody answered how someone that has a legitimate reason for not having insurance should pay for it without being totally broke and forced into bankruptcy.

Theres alot of averaging out in that video, using majority statistics to make it sound so rosey. That the few who suffer rare diseases or need significant surgeries still end up liable wasn't addressed and also the alleged corruption of the insurance industry isn't answered. Its a selective argument that doesn't look at the whole picture.

I'll grant those are some good stats for use in an argument. But all it might have done is remind me how Michael Moore isn't always thorough in his arguments.
A couple of things I see;
1. Before the 1960s, people with mental illnesses were generally cared for in institutional settings, mostly state-run psychiatric facilities. Many advocates saw this as "warehousing" people who could be cared for in less restrictive settings. Federal legislation and the courts powered a move toward deinstitutionalization, calling on states and counties to provide resources for social services, vocational rehabilitation and treatment services. The introduction of effective antipsychotic medications also drove the trend toward deinstitutionalization.
If it was unwise for the gov't to be in the care business then why is it wise now?

2. A question; what is a legitimate reason not to have health insurance when programs such as medicaid and medicare available?

3. The maker of the video admits that some people fall through the cracks but that woud be the case regardless of the system so that is a wash in my way of thinking.
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