SH3 fans opinion on SH4

walsh2509 · 04-05-07, 03:15 PM

I will keep plugging away at SH4, I've done 6 missions on 73% that's Lock scope and contact updates and have sunk over 250,000tns and have a Purple Heart , Silver Star, 2 MOH and a Navy Cross and nearly all my crew are promoted.

Sinkings, Large Oil Tanker. well it was 2 of them 20 toprs to put them down, last partrol I found 3 in a convoy. I sat mid lanes and gave all 6 to the Large Oil Tanker on my bow and 4 to the one on my stern, both sank. I went after the 3rd and when I had 1 torp reloaded I though about using it on a smaller ship in the convoy but then thought what the and was on her 90 close in and fired it. Splash, boom! some smoke then fire and a few seconds later BOOM hugh fireball and the 10,000tn Tanker was gone in 1 torp.

So its varied. As with the Japanese DD's which if we are truely play it as a sim then they are about correct for the date. As I have said in another post(s), it was not until a Congressman called May let it slip to reporter in mid 43 that the Japanese DDs were not that good at hunting US subs and not only that there DC were set way to low. The Japanese from day 1 until mid 43 were setting there DCs to 100ft, thinking that US subs were something like there own and could not dive below 100/150ft.

That said, I was sitting at the bottom of an approach to a japanese harbour, when 3 DD leading a convoy out past over me. About 3hrs later while I was still waiting for night fall and sitting at 36mts 1mts off the bottom, 2 DD came right up to my position and started to DC me and they killed me .. I tried the mission again, same again 1st set of DD didn't even know I was down there (engines off silent )again another 2 came along later and killed me again...

So will some complain about japanese DDs I think the devs have got them near as was for that period of the war.

/Might seem like shooting fish in a barrel compared to SH3 and GWX1.03 but on the whole it was not far off that, and when the did find you, they never put there DC any lower than 100ft..

This call for ultra sensitive DDs I think as in GWX will make it harder, that was not the way it was, and as we are supposed to be playing a sim of the sub war, then ultra sensitive DD and others is not right..

Out of the box SH4 is not that bad, its playable! OK we all know about the bug and the bug that 1.1 brought with it ...

But its still very playable.

So my fellings have not been tainted by these bugs, SH3 v SH4 both out of box comparison's.

In SH3 (no add ons) I was in Das boot, I had a crew "around" me they were part of me and I was part of them. I was in a steel tube under the waves and it felt like it. I was there! Sitting by the light off my screen with my headphones on, I was a Uboat commander.

SH4, in an out of box comparision v SH3 the same, does not come close. I am not in a sub when I am sitting by the light of my screen with my headphones on. I am in front of a monitor pressing buttons to make thing happen on the screen in front of me. I am alone, I have no crew (ok they are there but) I am not one of them and they are not with me.

Forget the bug the graphics , bottom line you take SH3 out of its box and load it into your PC and play, you are in a uboat and you are the commander and you are a part of the crew and they are part of you. If feels right! It just has that feel, bugs buttons graphics have nothing to do with it.. It just feels as thought you are there..

I don't get that with SH4, as I said forgetting the bugs and all for a moment, that feel is not there..

I will keep playing SH4 but the feeling I get and its just my opinion, but both straight out of box without add on or patches, SH3 I am at war in a uboat, SH4 I am pressing buttons. As I have said this is not about bugs, its a feeling and SH4 does not give me that..

Unless the devs find a way to give it that feel, be it the crew or whatever, no amount of patches or bug fixes will fix that..

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04-05-07, 03:15 PM	#26
walsh2509 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 410 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I will keep plugging away at SH4, I've done 6 missions on 73% that's Lock scope and contact updates and have sunk over 250,000tns and have a Purple Heart , Silver Star, 2 MOH and a Navy Cross and nearly all my crew are promoted. Sinkings, Large Oil Tanker. well it was 2 of them 20 toprs to put them down, last partrol I found 3 in a convoy. I sat mid lanes and gave all 6 to the Large Oil Tanker on my bow and 4 to the one on my stern, both sank. I went after the 3rd and when I had 1 torp reloaded I though about using it on a smaller ship in the convoy but then thought what the and was on her 90 close in and fired it. Splash, boom! some smoke then fire and a few seconds later BOOM hugh fireball and the 10,000tn Tanker was gone in 1 torp. So its varied. As with the Japanese DD's which if we are truely play it as a sim then they are about correct for the date. As I have said in another post(s), it was not until a Congressman called May let it slip to reporter in mid 43 that the Japanese DDs were not that good at hunting US subs and not only that there DC were set way to low. The Japanese from day 1 until mid 43 were setting there DCs to 100ft, thinking that US subs were something like there own and could not dive below 100/150ft. That said, I was sitting at the bottom of an approach to a japanese harbour, when 3 DD leading a convoy out past over me. About 3hrs later while I was still waiting for night fall and sitting at 36mts 1mts off the bottom, 2 DD came right up to my position and started to DC me and they killed me .. I tried the mission again, same again 1st set of DD didn't even know I was down there (engines off silent )again another 2 came along later and killed me again... So will some complain about japanese DDs I think the devs have got them near as was for that period of the war. /Might seem like shooting fish in a barrel compared to SH3 and GWX1.03 but on the whole it was not far off that, and when the did find you, they never put there DC any lower than 100ft.. This call for ultra sensitive DDs I think as in GWX will make it harder, that was not the way it was, and as we are supposed to be playing a sim of the sub war, then ultra sensitive DD and others is not right.. Out of the box SH4 is not that bad, its playable! OK we all know about the bug and the bug that 1.1 brought with it ... But its still very playable. So my fellings have not been tainted by these bugs, SH3 v SH4 both out of box comparison's. In SH3 (no add ons) I was in Das boot, I had a crew "around" me they were part of me and I was part of them. I was in a steel tube under the waves and it felt like it. I was there! Sitting by the light off my screen with my headphones on, I was a Uboat commander. SH4, in an out of box comparision v SH3 the same, does not come close. I am not in a sub when I am sitting by the light of my screen with my headphones on. I am in front of a monitor pressing buttons to make thing happen on the screen in front of me. I am alone, I have no crew (ok they are there but) I am not one of them and they are not with me. Forget the bug the graphics , bottom line you take SH3 out of its box and load it into your PC and play, you are in a uboat and you are the commander and you are a part of the crew and they are part of you. If feels right! It just has that feel, bugs buttons graphics have nothing to do with it.. It just feels as thought you are there.. I don't get that with SH4, as I said forgetting the bugs and all for a moment, that feel is not there.. I will keep playing SH4 but the feeling I get and its just my opinion, but both straight out of box without add on or patches, SH3 I am at war in a uboat, SH4 I am pressing buttons. As I have said this is not about bugs, its a feeling and SH4 does not give me that.. Unless the devs find a way to give it that feel, be it the crew or whatever, no amount of patches or bug fixes will fix that..