Is Britain too weak?

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Wastegate - in my opinion, britain became a target for the iranians due to their soft ROE, which came about as a result of pandering to soft, pansy-bellied pacifists who unfortunately make up too much of society. But thats just my opinion.

Originally Posted by gnirtS

No, Britain (or more accurately its weak excuse for a leader, Blair) has made itself a target by blindly following america into its wars. If Blair showed any spine or backbone and just said no the place would be far less of a target both home and abroad.

I think not - as has been shown before, attacks by different organisations against western targets have been going on for years, well before the invasion of afghanistan and later iraq. But i suppose they knew in advance, probably from divine foresight, that the invasions were gonna happen??

Originally Posted by gnirtS

Yes the UKs military is very weak these days to the extent it could not start and certainly not win a war against even a minor nation with its dated air force, dated and downsized navy and massively overstretched army but it wouldn't be a problem if its leaders stood up to others and just did whats right for the country not what someone asks for a favour.

If the Falklands were invaded today, there'd be no way to reclaim them (and i doubt blair would want to or have the balls to try either). Ancient dated aircraft on a pathetic excuse for a carrier that isn't even capable of providing its own fleet defence screen yet alone offensive action.

I have to agree, parts of this statement is true enough, but only to an extent. The british forces have been so downsized that they would struggle to fight a full-scale conventional war. What are the chances of that happening these days though? not very high. "oh but if they invade iran" someone may say... if that happens then we (the west) would be fighting almost an entire nation, military and civilian - thats not what id call conventional warfare.

Originally Posted by gnirtS

Kidnapping the Iranians in Iraq most probably directly triggered this latest incident.

Did it now? Firstly, I think you'll find that the Iranians detained were not kidnapped, but were in fact engaged in illegal activities within the borders of Iraq, were on falsified diplomatic passports, and were consorting with criminal (or insurgent, or revolutionary - whatever you please) elements. Detained for aiding and abetting hostile actions against several nations. That is not kidnapping, last i checked. Now, before getting indignant on me and claiming the same case for the britons detained, they were conducting a UN approved action in friendly waters on a neutral, consenting ship, when they were taken. thats a lot more like kidnapping to me.

Secondly on that point, hell its moot anyway - Iran have said that it wasnt related to any detentions of any citizens in Iraq. So what are you going to do - believe them on one point and not the other??


Just as a final, completely opinionated note - your sig makes me sick. And if you really feel that way, hell why not be a real patriot and put a picture of a burning british flag up as well.