Some issues that drag down DW MP experience

Cap'n Blake · 03-23-07, 03:42 PM

Hi, let me start by saying I'm long time fan of Jane's 688i, Sub Command and now Dangerous Waters - great sims, all of them.

However, here are few very annoying design flaws/bugs/lacking features that drag down the MP experience (coop and adversarial) at least for me and my mates, no matter how much we love Dangerous Waters. I've listed some main issues below:

1) Restricting loadouts is impossible, every player is able to stock anything he/she wants sometimes stuff that should not be possible (like Tomahawks which have been put to storage in reality). Host has no control over loadouts. I've tried some scripting/mission editing, none of those methods work reliably at least for me. Enlighten me if I'm wrong.

2) Host can't disable friendly AI vessels which are set as playables by the mission designer. This results in missions having unwanted friendly AI vessels fighting it out and ruining the entire mission. Tried a script that should delete those vessels that are not controlled by humans but it ended up deleting human controlled vessels randomly as well so it was not a workaround.

3) When host alt-tabs to Windows (He's dead or just wants to spend surfing the web during long cruise to target area) the entire game pauses for all connected players. Only client players are able to alt-tab without experiencing problems. This is very annoying.

4) It's not possible to join a game which is in progress, even as a spectator. This would be nice to have as some missions may drag on for very long periods.

5) There's is no real spectating mode, only Show Truth selectable by host which shows all platforms to all players - which of course ruins the game for those that are alive. So dead players are forced just to watch their destroyed vessel for the remainder of the game instead of having a blast watching the battle come to conclusion.

Let me remind this is not intended as a rant, I love the game but these issues need to be addressed in order to have more enjoyable multiplayer.

03-23-07, 03:42 PM	#1
Cap'n Blake Watch Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 21 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Some issues that drag down DW MP experience Hi, let me start by saying I'm long time fan of Jane's 688i, Sub Command and now Dangerous Waters - great sims, all of them. However, here are few very annoying design flaws/bugs/lacking features that drag down the MP experience (coop and adversarial) at least for me and my mates, no matter how much we love Dangerous Waters. I've listed some main issues below: 1) Restricting loadouts is impossible, every player is able to stock anything he/she wants sometimes stuff that should not be possible (like Tomahawks which have been put to storage in reality). Host has no control over loadouts. I've tried some scripting/mission editing, none of those methods work reliably at least for me. Enlighten me if I'm wrong. 2) Host can't disable friendly AI vessels which are set as playables by the mission designer. This results in missions having unwanted friendly AI vessels fighting it out and ruining the entire mission. Tried a script that should delete those vessels that are not controlled by humans but it ended up deleting human controlled vessels randomly as well so it was not a workaround. 3) When host alt-tabs to Windows (He's dead or just wants to spend surfing the web during long cruise to target area) the entire game pauses for all connected players. Only client players are able to alt-tab without experiencing problems. This is very annoying. 4) It's not possible to join a game which is in progress, even as a spectator. This would be nice to have as some missions may drag on for very long periods. 5) There's is no real spectating mode, only Show Truth selectable by host which shows all platforms to all players - which of course ruins the game for those that are alive. So dead players are forced just to watch their destroyed vessel for the remainder of the game instead of having a blast watching the battle come to conclusion. Let me remind this is not intended as a rant, I love the game but these issues need to be addressed in order to have more enjoyable multiplayer.