The benefits of Multiculturalism in Britain

[DAB]

Originally Posted by Kapitan

True british being the people that were born in england, if your born in england dosnt that make you english regardless if your pearents come from pakistan or india or some where else?

So us Welsh and Scots shall does go away shall we. The English were immigrents once as well I would point out. In fact, the welsh word for the English means immigrant.

Originally Posted by Narcosis

What a load of crap !

What a fundermentally grounded debating position you have there.

Originally Posted by Narcosis

n theory. But people who understand what really is going on in our country. Understand that Muslims dont give a Sh*t about our country, only their religion.

Hence why 1,000s of young Mulsims are trying to kill us.

As evident by the recent trial of one scum bag (out of 24 on trial) and the london bomber scum bags.

Lets play a numbers game shall we. The 2001 Census noted there were 1.6m people living in the United Kingdom who identified themselves as belonging to a Muslim denomination. Now the report you've linked too (which doesn't actually say what you want it to say I should add) only says thousends. Odds are he means a figure of say 4,000 - but lets take the theoretical maximum he could mean by that and say MI5 are watching 9,999 muslims. That equates to MI5 monitoring (at the ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM) 0.62% of the Muslim population. The figure is likley to be closer to 0.31% - Hardly a fifth column!

Originally Posted by Narcosis

Unfortunately like Dab above.
A lot of people do not understand Islam or its teachings and continue to walk in limbo.
They don’t believe that Mohammed murdered people and had a wife of 9 years old and had black slaves and had an army that went on killing sprees.

So until they do our country will continue to head towards the abyss

Oh, Mohammed killed in the name of his religion, i'm sure. But there again, Pope Julius II famously did the same thing (Popes by the way are Gods representatives on Earth and everything they do is Gods actions), and need I remind you of the traditional Christian method of spreading the faith.

Mohammed had a wife of 9 years? Wasn't that the age of Margaret Beaufort in the 15th century (hint, 500 years after Mohammed) when she married Edmund Tudor (who was close to 40). Certainly Margaret had only just hit 13 when she fell pregnant with the future Henry VII (who by the way Kaptain was Welsh)

Mohammed had black slaves!? Wow, what a revelation, wasn't slavery common in Britain in the 18th century come to think of it. As for raging armies that go on killing sprees. The British Army was accused of that in the 1970's!

I think though I have a good understanding of Islamic Practice, if not its teachings - you can not share a house with muslims for two years and share an office with one without getting to grips with the fundermental philosophies - especially when you both enjoy religious debates.

You can't judge my religion based on Leviticus (and don't tell me no one takes any notice of that book of the bible - Its quoted every other day in Christian debates on Homosexuality etc), so I wont judge anouther religion based on a couple of passages in a book written 1500 years ago.

Get over it, people from anouther society are in your country. We've been dealing with homegrown terrorism in this country for 500 years, and I for one am not going to score an own goal by discriminating against members of my community and driving them into the hands of my enemies.