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Old 10-02-13, 10:01 AM   #15
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Treason: the crime of betraying one's country, esp. by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
That's not the definition in the Constitution. You're bringing in something else, and trying to apply it where it doesn't belong.

Tell you what: the Second Amendment says that you have a right to bear arms. It doesn't say anything about guns. Therefore, as long as you can have a knife, your right to bear arms is not being infringed.

That's exactly what you're doing. You don't get to pick the parts you like and throw out the parts you don't. There's an amendment process for that.


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Okay, you are trying to misuse the constitution here, I included the accepted definition of treason.
Three questions, please.
-Why
did the founders feel it necessary to define exactly what treason is?
-Is the Constitution the supreme law of the land?
-Is the Constitution an evolving document, open to interpretation?


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The people who run the UN are not exactly fans of the US.How you can not see that? Well maybe you can, just won't admit it or maybe you are the type who thinks that sort of crap is okay.
So there are people who don't like the US. Big deal. People are entitled to their opinions. That doesn't mean the black helicopters and blue helmets are going to be appearing.


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While we may "share" the same earth, that is point of having a sovereign country, we live our way, you live yours, try to get along but if needed, have the ability to take the other one out.Can listen to other nations views but entering into ANYTHING at all that binds us to the will of anyone but our own citizens and laws, is a betrayal, ie treason.
I live differently from my neighbor. If he does something I don't like, I don't get to burn his house down. I can scream and rant about it, but that's just going to make me look like a spoiled child. There are neighborhood groups to help sort out problems.
The next town over from me does things differently. The folks in my town don't get to burn their town down. We can scream and rant about it, but that's just going to make us look like spoiled children. There are political processes to help sort out problems.
The next state has different laws. That doesn't mean we get to burn their state down. We can scream and rant about it, but that's just going to make us look like spoiled children. There are political processes to help sort out problems.
The next country is different from us. That means we get to do what we want. We can scream and rant about it,and everyone else better listen to us. There are political processes to help sort out problems, but things better be done our way. If they aren't, we have no reason to try and play nice with the other children.

It's an international society, not the end of the world.
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