"Men -- the new second class citizens"

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Really? Would you have told Catherine II or Hapshetsut or Wu Zetian that? Women have always been part of the power structure, and often the head of it, throughout history. They have done so without relying on their "husband" to gain / maintain power.

If you think that listing a few notable exceptions somehow shows that past societies have not usually been overwhelmingly patriarchal, you're nuts.