Spoiler alert - KOBE

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Sniper297

I like a challenge, but I also like blowing stuff up instead of spending two years listening to repeated clunks with dud torpedoes, so I always turn that off and historical realism be damned.

That's more than fair. We all have to do what suits us best.

Never tried RFB, TMO, or RSRD mainly because the damage and repair model sucks but also because it's a game - in real life there were many patrols where they never sunk any ships, what fun is that?

I've been playing subisms for more than a quarter-century, starting with Silent Service in 1987. I played Aces Of The Deep and Silent Hunter 1, and still do. I played SH2 and hated it, except for the adversarial multiplayer with Destroyer Command. I still play SH3, and I play it as realistically as I can, except for manual targetting, because my math skills stop at what I would generously describe as "basic". When I'm assigned a patrol grid I go there and I stay there for at least two weeks, after which I may or may not move to a new grid, depending on a die-roll system I came up with myself. I have had several patrols in which I've never even seen an enemy ship, let alone sunk one, and I have a lot of fun. I don't play video games at all, unless they represent some historical subject I like, and then I enjoy taking the bad with the good.

Ridiculous that a simulation of submersible vehicles wouldn't at least attempt SOME simulation of buoyancy and balance.

A fair point. I have many complaints about all of them, but for now I'm stuck with what I've been given.