Same-sex marriage in Sweden/Gays in military

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Hurts the institution of marriage? Two consenting adults who love each other wanting to marry hurts the institution of marriage?

Sure it does, by relativising it'S value. As I pointed out, and is my understanding, marriage is a heterosexual thing by definition. It has a certain purpose, and a historic record that made it what it is.

I cannot share this populistic obsession to claim that the idea of marriage is anything different. The politically most correct hysteria to euqlaise all and everything and actively refusing the recognition of differen ces is producing some very braintwisting rollercoasting deathspiralling mega-looping intellectual adventure here.

Hell, even the official German lesbian and gay association does not use the terms "marriage" and "marrying" anymore, having understood the heterosexual background that defines a marriage and is part of the definition of the term. They talk of "verpartnern" (roughly: "partnering").

Some years ago, in South Africa there was an Asian minority, which ws and still is Asian in every means, had the skin colour of Asian people, the eyes of Asian people, the hair os Asian people, and was everything but "Negroes" or "Blacks". They were Asians indeed, happening to live in South Africa. then some tax laws changed, and the following implications would have meant that Blacks would gain certain advantages from that reform that the Asians would not get, for they were not Blacks, but Asians. they sued the state over claims of being discriminated. the Salomonic verdict: although by race they are not African Blacks, but Asians, they are now officially and medically rated as African Blacks. Non-black Blacks, so to speak. That probably makes pale, white-skinned me a red-skinned Indian, because as a juvenile I read Karl May.

Did I say Salomonic...? Forget it . Of course, it is absolutely, totally absurd to define "yellow-skinned" Asians as negroid Blacks for reasons of "equality" and non-discrimination. They should have included Asian emmigrants living in south Africa for a given number of years in that law reform, and they would have been done. now you have a situation where the classification of someone being a Black does not have any meaning anymore. In fact, this Black man could be a white Scandinavian indeed, eventually.

Left could mean right. Yes could mean No. Up could mean Down. everything must mean everything, else it is called a discrimination.

Nuts. Crazy.

It reminds me very much of this absurd discussion about gay marriages. A blue Red. A silent noise. A cold warmth. A dark brightness. (A liberal totalitarianism, a humanistic Islam, a democratic absolutism, while we are at it).