Boehner: No One's Read the "Stimulus"

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

Well moan all yall want but the country supports the bailout. They are sick of the prospect of having to work to the bone at a minimum wage job.

Will the future generations have to deal with it? Yes. But I think it will be ALOT easier when they have fusion and quantum computers.

I don't know which to disbelieve more, your complete lack of understanding of economic fundamentals or your utter faith in technology that has not yet come of age.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a a technophile as well, but you can't combine real technological process with socialistic systems. It may work for a while, but eventually the system collapses under economic strain. Examples include every socialist nation ever.

Yes, I know that there are socialist nations right now that have or have had some unique technological achievements, but in time they will fail, just like all the others.


While it may be true that the country supports the stimulus package, and some of the bailouts, that is to be expected. Everyone wants "free" stuff, especially when times are difficult. But they always fail to realize the price they, and the nation, will ultimately pay. Case-in-point; Social Security, along with a host of other "New Deal" programs. The country didn't particularly benefit from them at the time, and the nation payed a tremendous bill in the long run.

Get this through whatever mind you do have. You cant start paying back the debt if you are still on fossil fuels 20 years from now because the people working on alt energy got laid off.

Your'e operating under the assumption that alternative energy will help. It might, in point of fact, but only if it is more economical than what we have now. Until then, it is just a drain on resources. Do you really think that energy companies are too stupid to know an efficient energy source when they see one? Companies stay in business by using one or both of two methods. Being efficient, or manipulating the government system. Whatever method they choose, they have to remain profitable. If they don't they either (a) go bankrupt or close, or (b) fall back on government support.

By now, it should be quite clear that many companies have opted to bypass the mechanics of supply and demand, and have curried government favor to ensure their continued success. Whether it is in the form of subsidies (which we have many of, just check the Federal budget registry) or tariffs that hamper the competition (check the same) or via lobbying, companies that curry the favor of the state almost always win out. Companies are always efficient, they always seek the best means to profit, so why would you give the horribly inefficient Federal government the right to determine those means?

In your support of Democratic Party initiatives, you are actually slowing progress down. The Federal government has no Constitutional right to issue bailouts, and they have no Constitutional right to promote most of the programs they do.
Would you trust a monopolistic company to handle your life? Of course not. So why would you trust a monopolistic Federal Government to do the same? Why would you give anyone the right to choose for you? Why would the people in that organization function any more efficiently than those in a private organization, who are competing for jobs, wages, and position? Surely you can't be so naive as to believe that so many people would do their best out of "patriotic duty", and a visit to your local DMV or Social Security office should convince you of that.

The Deomcrats' socialistic system removes incentive from those under it.
IMO, those that choose such a system are those that want things done, but aren't willing to put forth the effort themselves, and they are preyed upon by people who exploit that desire, espite their consistent inability to deliver the prmised results.

The Republican (not so much in it's current form) system, seeks to force individuals to take responsibility for their own destinies, and take care of themselves. This encourages competition, which in turn encourages efficiency, in every sector of market and government.

We had a Civil War over this once, you know. Between people who wanted to tell everyone else what to do and people that wanted to make their own choices. Guess which side was which.

All I ask is that you step down from your high horse for just a momnent, and assume that it may be possible that not everyone that doesn't think like you is an idiot.
Is it, perhaps, possible that you don't know the right answer for everyone? Is there a chance that you aren't the smartest person on the face of the planet; One that can make a socialist society work, for once?

Maybe you should consider the idea of letting others profit or suffer from their own decisions, instead of telling them how to think.


I apologize for any rudeness that might have been conveyed, but please understand that I feel as strongly about these kinds of issues as you do, and forgive my inability to express them in a totally inoccuous fashion.