RA and Alfa tau - A case for freespeach

Raptor_341 · 11-19-08, 04:15 PM

>> This thread is not to talk about the mods per say, but more to discuss why our old thread about these "less than EULA legal" mods have been banned. After checking on the forum rules, i could see nothing wrong about discussing mods, and seeing that this makes up 90% of what we do here, i hope not. Its not about SCS, its about letting us at subsim have the right disguss and talk about the things that we please reguarding our simulations without having it closed off.

Onkel Neal · 11-19-08, 04:21 PM

First, you may want to spell "speech" correctly.

Be patient, let's see what we can do. Free speech is welcome but we do have responsibilities.

thanks
Neal

goldorak · 11-19-08, 04:42 PM

Let me say that closing threads only for talking about mods, albeit mods of dubious legal status should not happen.
We are not giving links, subsim is not hosting those incriminating files so honestly there shouldn't be censorship going on here.

MBot · 11-19-08, 05:06 PM

Thanks Neal for contacting SCS about that. Meanwhile I think we should respect his wish and wait with further discussions.

It is his forum after all. Free speech does not exist in a private forum by default, it is Neals right to decide what to allow and what not.

goldorak · 11-19-08, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBot

Thanks Neal for contacting SCS about that. Meanwhile I think we should respect his wish and wait with further discussions.

It is his forum after all. Free speech does not exist in a private forum by default, it is Neals right to decide what to allow and what not.

Fair enough. Even if I think the decision to close the thread was quite drastic.

Castout · 11-19-08, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by goldorak

Fair enough. Even if I think the decision to close the thread was quite drastic.

It was a gesture to show that subsim is serious.

Seems Neal is fair enough. I'll trust he will advocate for us, DW fans in this matter

.

Raptor_341 · 11-19-08, 07:46 PM

>> Other than the "Speech" misspell

, i suppose i will just wait. I didnt know that this is a private forum, so its fair enough but i still disagree. If we are not allowed to talk about mods like this in the future, i will rethink being apart of this community. Until then, i will wait and see.

Onkel Neal · 11-19-08, 08:51 PM

Thanks guys, I appreciate that. Yes, it is a private forum but at the same time we don't ignore that it is your forum, too. When DW was new, SCS held the position that they had the sole right to add playables to the game, and the community acknowledged this right. That kind of respect between community and developers is a rare and wonderful thing. Now that DW has been out a while, perhaps SCS will consider mods a benefit.

Neal

Castout · 11-20-08, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Thanks guys, I appreciate that. Yes, it is a private forum but at the same time we don't ignore that it is your forum, too. When DW was new, SCS held the position that they had the sole right to add playables to the game, and the community acknowledged this right. That kind of respect between community and developers is a rare and wonderful thing. Now that DW has been out a while, perhaps SCS will consider mods a benefit.

Neal

We'll be waiting for your news Mr Neal

PeriscopeDepth · 11-21-08, 02:38 PM

Any news here?

And if it's news we're not allowed to talk about as of yet, please send a PM.

PD

Raptor_341 · 11-21-08, 05:45 PM

>> Aye, same here. And i found disturbing things about RA that i need to share thats plus one for AT. my head is spinning.

Onkel Neal · 11-21-08, 07:26 PM

I did receive a response, they are going have a meeting over it and get back with me.

Neal

Castout · 11-21-08, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I did receive a response, they are going have a meeting over it and get back with me.

Neal

Thanks Neal the community owes you for your effort

. Much appreciated

Molon Labe · 11-21-08, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I did receive a response, they are going have a meeting over it and get back with me.

Neal

So they left someone behind in the lighthouse after all!

To be · 11-21-08, 08:07 PM

Quite unprecedented.

11-19-08, 04:15 PM	#1
Raptor_341 Loader Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 89 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	RA and Alfa tau - A case for freespeach >> This thread is not to talk about the mods per say, but more to discuss why our old thread about these "less than EULA legal" mods have been banned. After checking on the forum rules, i could see nothing wrong about discussing mods, and seeing that this makes up 90% of what we do here, i hope not. Its not about SCS, its about letting us at subsim have the right disguss and talk about the things that we please reguarding our simulations without having it closed off. __________________ MAD MARK, FULL SCALE!

11-19-08, 04:21 PM	#2
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	First, you may want to spell "speech" correctly. Be patient, let's see what we can do. Free speech is welcome but we do have responsibilities. thanks Neal __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

11-19-08, 07:46 PM	#7
Raptor_341 Loader Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 89 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	>> Other than the "Speech" misspell , i suppose i will just wait. I didnt know that this is a private forum, so its fair enough but i still disagree. If we are not allowed to talk about mods like this in the future, i will rethink being apart of this community. Until then, i will wait and see. __________________ MAD MARK, FULL SCALE!

11-19-08, 08:51 PM	#8
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Thanks guys, I appreciate that. Yes, it is a private forum but at the same time we don't ignore that it is your forum, too. When DW was new, SCS held the position that they had the sole right to add playables to the game, and the community acknowledged this right. That kind of respect between community and developers is a rare and wonderful thing. Now that DW has been out a while, perhaps SCS will consider mods a benefit. Neal __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

11-21-08, 05:45 PM	#11
Raptor_341 Loader Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 89 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	>> Aye, same here. And i found disturbing things about RA that i need to share thats plus one for AT. my head is spinning. __________________ MAD MARK, FULL SCALE!

11-19-08, 04:42 PM	#3
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Let me say that closing threads only for talking about mods, albeit mods of dubious legal status should not happen. We are not giving links, subsim is not hosting those incriminating files so honestly there shouldn't be censorship going on here.

11-19-08, 05:06 PM	#4
MBot Loader Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 90 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Thanks Neal for contacting SCS about that. Meanwhile I think we should respect his wish and wait with further discussions. It is his forum after all. Free speech does not exist in a private forum by default, it is Neals right to decide what to allow and what not.

11-21-08, 02:38 PM	#10
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Any news here? And if it's news we're not allowed to talk about as of yet, please send a PM. PD

11-21-08, 07:26 PM	#12
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I did receive a response, they are going have a meeting over it and get back with me. Neal __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

11-21-08, 08:07 PM	#15
To be Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 140 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Quite unprecedented.