They're all duds!!!

Loud_Silence · 11-09-08, 06:34 PM

Im tired of watching all my torps go below the keel harmlessly. I set them just 3 feet below keel, and they still not exploding. Now my basic rule of engagement is firing the first torp set with the magnetic detonator, and two more set to hit the hull.
And its not just Mk14s, but also Mk18s, IN 1944!

SteamWake · 11-09-08, 07:00 PM

Forget the beneath the keel shots. As you have learned they are notoriously un-reliable.

Instead set the torpedoes shallow and go for impact detonations. You will see much better results.

By the way, 3 feet is far to deep below the keel 1 foot max and even then cross your fingers.

Falkirion · 11-09-08, 07:25 PM

Dont set it for 3 feet below the keel. Set for 1, and even then pray. Most of the keel shots I've gone for miss so I usually get the draft of the ship from the recognition manual and subtract about 7 feet from it for my shots. I prefer impact over keel.

But when a keel shot works boy its amazing to watch. Try it in the torpedo attack tutorial.

Subnuts · 11-09-08, 08:16 PM

Three points:

The Mk 14's magnetic detonator almost never actually worked.
Mk 14s tended to run about ten feet deeper than actually set until the depth-keeping problem was solved in 1943.
The Mk 18 was never actually equipped with a magnetic detonator.

breadcatcher101 · 11-09-08, 08:26 PM

I've set mine no more than 3 feet in calm seas, less in storms. I've only had a couple of duds after 2 wars. In a convoy I use contacts in case I miss it could still hit another ship. Stock game, 1.4. Maybe I've just been lucky so far.

All MK 14's btw.

Sledgehammer427 · 11-09-08, 08:29 PM

meh, i'm using RFB 1.52 and the torps work just like they woulda in RL...even tho i fired 5 at a destroyer...and all of them managed to blow up...
so in a sense, i waylaid a destroyer....

aanker · 11-09-08, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subnuts

Three points:

The Mk 14's magnetic detonator almost never actually worked.
Mk 14s tended to run about ten feet deeper than actually set until the depth-keeping problem was solved in 1943.
The Mk 18 was never actually equipped with a magnetic detonator.

This is good advice. I never use the Mark VI magnetic detonator unless ordered to do so. Can't remember where but I've read that even the Germans gave up on the magnetic detonator.

Happy Hunting!

Art

<Jason> · 11-09-08, 10:46 PM

i havent tried any under the keel shots yet but this has got me wanting to try. :hmm:

Arclight · 11-09-08, 11:02 PM

Good luck, you'll need it.

Luck, that is, lots of it.

Loud_Silence · 11-10-08, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subnuts

The Mk 18 was never actually equipped with a magnetic detonator.

elanaiba · 11-10-08, 04:30 AM

I can't check THAT right now - seem to remember otherwise.

But on the other hand Mark 18s after June 1943 in the game won't have magnetic pistols anymore.

LukeFF · 11-11-08, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elanaiba

I can't check THAT right now - seem to remember otherwise.

But on the other hand Mark 18s after June 1943 in the game won't have magnetic pistols anymore.

Considering Mark 18s went into combat for the first time in September 1943 and the order had gone out the previous June to deactivate the magnetic detonator (for Lockwood's boats), I highly doubt the Mark 18 ever had a magnetic detonator.

elanaiba · 11-11-08, 04:07 AM

Right... forgot about that

And BTW... Happy Birthday Luke

LukeFF · 11-11-08, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elanaiba

And BTW... Happy Birthday Luke

Thanks!

Death · 11-11-08, 11:06 AM

Run default settings mostly from roughly 90 degrees AOB (75-125); rarely duds, whether impact or impact/mag. Usually requires a few hits compared to one or two decent deep/keel hits, but a hit or two on default usually slows them down and allows one to move on to other targets [and then come back and finish it off]. This is with US Mark 14 fish. German eels are better (T I); they tend to work deep and detonate under ships, and this allows for shots from all angles.

Run a few meters deeper in big swell for both sides (impact for Mark 14s); the dud rate goes up, as does the miss rate, but that's to be expected.

11-09-08, 06:34 PM	#1
Loud_Silence Planesman Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 193 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They're all duds!!! Im tired of watching all my torps go below the keel harmlessly. I set them just 3 feet below keel, and they still not exploding. Now my basic rule of engagement is firing the first torp set with the magnetic detonator, and two more set to hit the hull. And its not just Mk14s, but also Mk18s, IN 1944!

11-09-08, 08:16 PM	#4
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Three points: The Mk 14's magnetic detonator almost never actually worked. Mk 14s tended to run about ten feet deeper than actually set until the depth-keeping problem was solved in 1943. The Mk 18 was never actually equipped with a magnetic detonator. __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

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Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	meh, i'm using RFB 1.52 and the torps work just like they woulda in RL...even tho i fired 5 at a destroyer...and all of them managed to blow up... so in a sense, i waylaid a destroyer.... __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

11-09-08, 10:46 PM	#8
<Jason> Sailor man Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Melbourne, Fl Posts: 45 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	i havent tried any under the keel shots yet but this has got me wanting to try. :hmm: __________________ ------------------------------------------------

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11-09-08, 07:00 PM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Forget the beneath the keel shots. As you have learned they are notoriously un-reliable. Instead set the torpedoes shallow and go for impact detonations. You will see much better results. By the way, 3 feet is far to deep below the keel 1 foot max and even then cross your fingers.

11-09-08, 07:25 PM	#3
Falkirion Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 1,043 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Dont set it for 3 feet below the keel. Set for 1, and even then pray. Most of the keel shots I've gone for miss so I usually get the draft of the ship from the recognition manual and subtract about 7 feet from it for my shots. I prefer impact over keel. But when a keel shot works boy its amazing to watch. Try it in the torpedo attack tutorial.

11-09-08, 08:26 PM	#5
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I've set mine no more than 3 feet in calm seas, less in storms. I've only had a couple of duds after 2 wars. In a convoy I use contacts in case I miss it could still hit another ship. Stock game, 1.4. Maybe I've just been lucky so far. All MK 14's btw.

11-10-08, 04:30 AM	#11
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	I can't check THAT right now - seem to remember otherwise. But on the other hand Mark 18s after June 1943 in the game won't have magnetic pistols anymore. __________________ With strength I burn...

11-11-08, 04:07 AM	#13
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Right... forgot about that And BTW... Happy Birthday Luke __________________ With strength I burn... Last edited by elanaiba; 11-11-08 at 04:18 AM.

11-11-08, 11:06 AM	#15
Death Nub Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Run default settings mostly from roughly 90 degrees AOB (75-125); rarely duds, whether impact or impact/mag. Usually requires a few hits compared to one or two decent deep/keel hits, but a hit or two on default usually slows them down and allows one to move on to other targets [and then come back and finish it off]. This is with US Mark 14 fish. German eels are better (T I); they tend to work deep and detonate under ships, and this allows for shots from all angles. Run a few meters deeper in big swell for both sides (impact for Mark 14s); the dud rate goes up, as does the miss rate, but that's to be expected.