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Old 09-08-08, 09:20 AM   #46
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Plus, canadians kill baby seals with bats.
That's the real Canadian bacon fer ya!
(Though shooting wolves from planes dosn't go on my goodguy records, only thing U can shoot from a plane is people)
Who the hell gets kicks from shooting dogiies frm planes? Same kind that appreciate getting babies into people ovens?
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Old 09-08-08, 09:23 AM   #47
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It's the principle of the thing (actually doesn't Iran's exploiting nuclear power plants fall into that category?) don't mess in other countries internal affairs, right? something the US have never done before (sometimes for the worst, sometimes for the best - I'm not one of those anti-USA guys mind you, quite the opposite!)
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you were. You do have a point about Iran, although i suspect that if there weren't the very reasonable suspicion the Iranians were going to use their nuke technology to build a bomb nobody would have problem with their program.
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Old 09-08-08, 09:25 AM   #48
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Plus, canadians kill baby seals with bats.
That's the real Canadian bacon fer ya!
(Though shooting wolves from planes dosn't go on my goodguy records, only thing U can shoot from a plane is people)
Who the hell gets kicks from shooting dogiies frm planes? Same kind that appreciate getting babies into people ovens?
As a sport i agree with you, however i do believe this is more like a varmint eradication program, though i may be wrong about that.
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Old 09-08-08, 10:39 AM   #49
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I doubt it, there's still to be proved that any predatorial species should be controlled by huntng... Predators vary directly with the avaiability of preys and competition with other predators, sometimes there may be a need to control large herbivore groups like elephant populaions in africa, but there is not one single case I am aware of, of there being a need to contol a predator population, because their racio is naturally very low... The only times that there can be a unbalanced number of predators is when human interaction (by means of food abundance - live stock, landfills - or when there's over exploration on the same prey the predators ussually hunt - in wich case predator numbers plummet almost immediattly) since there isn't much livestock production in Alaska, or so i've perceived, the wolf and bear hunting most likely turns out to be for sports.
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Old 09-08-08, 10:51 AM   #50
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There's big bucks to be earned on these kinds of hunts, about a year + halfago a kind of safari game reserve (completelly illegal) was taken down near the spannish-portuguese border.
They had big game "hunters" come over and hunt old animals they'd buy from circuses who didn't wanted them anymore because they could't perform at the shows. They had tigers. lions, bears, leopars, elephants, they even had wolves apparently imported from russia... they were seemingly registered as a private mini-zoo, and instead had these mock hunts with guys driving jeeps and shooting at the animals... fcking reatards, but again, they'd pay great sums of money, and to some people that's enough... I've heard that there's a lot of these parks around in Russia and China too...
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She does an awful lot of killing for such a pro lifer....
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Old 09-08-08, 11:00 AM   #52
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yupo found something about that: http://www.santohuberto.com/sh_conteudo.asp?id=459

"O jornal espanhol ‘El Mundo’, que revela a notícia, afirma que um lobo custa 24 mil euros e um leão ou um tigre mais de 36 mil."

Wolf - 24.000 E
Lion or Tiger - 36.000+ E

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Old 09-08-08, 11:09 AM   #53
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You can say hatever you wnat about hunting, and I even think that a well managed game reserve can be good for the environment (the hunted animals take one for the team as a sacrifice for their species...) but this is just wrong... This has nothing to do with the thrill of the hunt, or difficulty or whatever, this is just people getting kicks by being powerdrunk saddists...

If you want to hunt for sports get a bow and arrows, or learn falconry...That's a challenge.
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Old 09-08-08, 11:12 AM   #54
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If you want to hunt for sports get a bow and arrows, or learn falconry...That's a challenge.
Disagree. Using a falcon is letting someone else (the bird) do it for you.

I say if you want to truly hunt for sport, and prove how tough you really are, use a knife.
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I doubt it, there's still to be proved that any predatorial species should be controlled by huntng... Predators vary directly with the avaiability of preys and competition with other predators, sometimes there may be a need to control large herbivore groups like elephant populaions in africa, but there is not one single case I am aware of, of there being a need to contol a predator population, because their racio is naturally very low... The only times that there can be a unbalanced number of predators is when human interaction (by means of food abundance - live stock, landfills - or when there's over exploration on the same prey the predators ussually hunt - in wich case predator numbers plummet almost immediattly) since there isn't much livestock production in Alaska, or so i've perceived, the wolf and bear hunting most likely turns out to be for sports.
You know it amazes me that there are some who argue that a countries resources are exclusive to outside interference. If, (and I use the word lightly as I do not know) Polar Bears are endangered then I'm sorry, it is not an exclusive matter to Palin or the USA. The USA does not allow ANY spotted skin such as Leopard or Cheetah to be brought into the country simply because they are on the endangered list of CITES. The USA is a member of this international body. So. if we (SA) had a politician, or as a country, told the world (and posters on forums) to sod off, we are going to shoot leopards, elephants, lions, cheetahs etc,as we see fit - do you not think that would be highly irresponsible to the world community at large? Do you not want your children's children to be given the opportunity to see an elephant in the wilds, a pack of lions on the hunt, a cheetah speeding across the plains or a polar bear rumbling across the pack ice? If you shrug your shoulders and say "So what" - IMO, not only do you have no heart, you have no compassion for your dumb friends of this planet whose only hope for survival for many of them is if we care enough.
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Bare hands and teeth!
Against the lions! eheheh
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I doubt it, there's still to be proved that any predatorial species should be controlled by huntng... Predators vary directly with the avaiability of preys and competition with other predators, sometimes there may be a need to control large herbivore groups like elephant populaions in africa, but there is not one single case I am aware of, of there being a need to contol a predator population, because their racio is naturally very low... The only times that there can be a unbalanced number of predators is when human interaction (by means of food abundance - live stock, landfills - or when there's over exploration on the same prey the predators ussually hunt - in wich case predator numbers plummet almost immediattly) since there isn't much livestock production in Alaska, or so i've perceived, the wolf and bear hunting most likely turns out to be for sports.
You know it amazes me that there are some who argue that a countries resources are exclusive to outside interference. If, (and I use the word lightly as I do not know) Polar Bears are endangered then I'm sorry, it is not an exclusive matter to Palin or the USA. The USA does not allow ANY spotted skin such as Leopard or Cheetah to be brought into the country simply because they are on the endangered list of CITES. The USA is a member of this international body. So. if we (SA) had a politician, or as a country, told the world (and posters on forums) to sod off, we are going to shoot leopards, elephants, lions, cheetahs etc,as we see fit - do you not think that would be highly irresponsible to the world community at large? Do you not want your children's children to be given the opportunity to see an elephant in the wilds, a pack of lions on the hunt, a cheetah speeding across the plains or a polar bear rumbling across the pack ice? If you shrug your shoulders and say "So what" - IMO, not only do you have no heart, you have no compassion for your dumb friends of this planet whose only hope for survival for many of them is if we care enough.
Can't agree with you more, Spain and Portugal are a vital part of the migration routes of a butloads of bird species, many endangered,and here they're somewhat protected, and then when they reach north coast of africa, or corsica and sicilly they're slaughtered because either they don't have laws about it or simply don't give a rat's arse about them...
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The USA is a member of this international body. So. if we (SA) had a politician, or as a country, told the world (and posters on forums) to sod off, we are going to shoot leopards, elephants, lions, cheetahs etc,as we see fit - do you not think that would be highly irresponsible to the world community at large?
Von T, you have to remember that the USA is the country who said that part of the reason we had to go into Iraq because that country had violated UN decrees, but when the UN decreed they didn't want us going into Iraq we turned around and said "Who cares what you think? We're doing what we want and you don't tell us what to do!"
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The only times that there can be a unbalanced number of predators is when human interaction (by means of food abundance - live stock, landfills - or when there's over exploration on the same prey the predators ussually hunt - in wich case predator numbers plummet almost immediattly) since there isn't much livestock production in Alaska, or so i've perceived, the wolf and bear hunting most likely turns out to be for sports.
Like I said i'm not sure but there have been three bear attacks within Anchorage city limits this year alone.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/...bear17.article
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I say if you want to truly hunt for sport, and prove how tough you really are, use a knife.
You and I have different ideas about hunting Steve.
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