near miss at periscope depth

Garrincha · 07-19-08, 05:23 AM

Now this is interesting...looks pretty real to me!

Anyone know which sub class this is?

cheers,
Garrincha

Jimbuna · 07-19-08, 06:03 AM

No idea what class of sub it is.....but that was a really close miss

Platapus · 07-19-08, 06:10 AM

I am not a sub guy, although I do play one on the computer.

How could this happen? Small ships such as this are not exactly stealthy.

If the sub were already at periscope depth would it not dive/change course to avoid the ship?

If the sub were submerged would not its sensors be abel to detect a this ship?

On another thread there were comments that our sub's sensors can track stuff from hundreds of kilometers.

Was the incident in the photographs an accident or was the ship supposed to be that close. The ship appears to be not a fishing boat but some sort of research type. Was this part of an experiment or test?

One of the gentlemen on the deck does not seem at all concerned (or particularly interested) in the periscopes that close.

And of course these days I always have to ask this question: Do we know for a fact that these are not fauxtographs? The periscopes seem different in the different pictures.

Oberon · 07-19-08, 07:15 AM

Upholder class?

Jimbuna · 07-19-08, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Upholder class?

It wouldn't appear so.

lesrae · 07-19-08, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Upholder class?

No - they don't have that swept aft end to the fin, as jimbuna's photo shows.

Are we sure this isn't a photoshop? The guys on the boat look a bit too calm to me. If the photos are meant to be in sequence, why would the sub raise (what looks like) it's snort exhaust before surfacing after a near miss like that?

Oberon · 07-19-08, 09:22 AM

I gotta admit, those guys on the stern of the fishing boat look a little too calm for periscopes passing by that close, and I don't think the third picture is a part of the sequence, if indeed there is one because I could have sworn I've seen that picture before and it was a Walrus snorting.

Skybird · 07-19-08, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Garrincha

Anyone know which sub class this is?

Assuming the photos are not constructed, I would say it is a sub class that has some very serious problems with its sensors and periscopes.

but I cannot image the first two photos to be true. Or does anyone believe the first movie poster for Jaws (the one with the girl swimming and the shark raising from underneath her) described a physical reality?

mcf1 · 07-19-08, 09:43 AM

Maybe that guy was playing to much SH and he got used to that

FIREWALL · 07-19-08, 09:56 AM

Columbian drug sub picking up or delivering a load of coke ?:p

FIREWALL · 07-19-08, 09:59 AM

Caption of two fisherman : Pesky Colombo subs are everywhere now damnit

UnderseaLcpl · 07-19-08, 10:00 AM

I once saw something similar where a Russian submarine surfaced underneath an old man and a boy in a boat (or maybe they were ice fishing, it's been a long time) and they shared Nestle Crunch bars.

Incredible stuff.

August · 07-19-08, 10:04 AM

I think they're faked. If you look closely at the first photo the black cable (boom stay?) passes in front of most of the periscopes but is partially obscured by the camouflaged one.

07-19-08, 10:10 AM

Well there was that one accident where the US sub rammed the Japanese ship, created a lot of bad blood I remember.

geetrue · 07-19-08, 10:36 AM

That's one crazy photo for sure ...

Reminds me of a sea story ... we were in the South China sea one time at about 64' snorkeling on the USS Salmon SS-573 when we heard a big bang, secure from snorkeling, take a look around with number one scope, suface, surface ...

The bow was covered with a near-by fishing boats fishing nets, not a big modern fishing boat, but an old tired Chinese type. We cut it off and sent a diver down to make sure no damage to the underside.

While waiting for clearence to dive again the fishing boat hails us and demands money for their nets. The chief of the boat takes up a collection from the crew and gives the poor fisherman the money.

"Okey dokey you guys can go now" The fishing boat pushes off.

He was happy and we slide back under the waves.

Year 1963 ...

P.S. notice the third picture from the top and how the boat is going the other direction, plus the background clouds are all different ... placement of the mast is different in two pictures too.

07-19-08, 05:23 AM	#1
Garrincha Seaman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 33 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	near miss at periscope depth Now this is interesting...looks pretty real to me! Anyone know which sub class this is? cheers, Garrincha

07-19-08, 06:03 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	No idea what class of sub it is.....but that was a really close miss __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-19-08, 06:10 AM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I am not a sub guy, although I do play one on the computer. How could this happen? Small ships such as this are not exactly stealthy. If the sub were already at periscope depth would it not dive/change course to avoid the ship? If the sub were submerged would not its sensors be abel to detect a this ship? On another thread there were comments that our sub's sensors can track stuff from hundreds of kilometers. Was the incident in the photographs an accident or was the ship supposed to be that close. The ship appears to be not a fishing boat but some sort of research type. Was this part of an experiment or test? One of the gentlemen on the deck does not seem at all concerned (or particularly interested) in the periscopes that close. And of course these days I always have to ask this question: Do we know for a fact that these are not fauxtographs? The periscopes seem different in the different pictures. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-19-08, 09:56 AM	#10
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Columbian drug sub picking up or delivering a load of coke ?:p __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

07-19-08, 09:59 AM	#11
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Caption of two fisherman : Pesky Colombo subs are everywhere now damnit __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

07-19-08, 07:15 AM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Upholder class?

07-19-08, 09:22 AM	#7
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I gotta admit, those guys on the stern of the fishing boat look a little too calm for periscopes passing by that close, and I don't think the third picture is a part of the sequence, if indeed there is one because I could have sworn I've seen that picture before and it was a Walrus snorting.

07-19-08, 09:43 AM	#9
mcf1 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greece, Volos Posts: 710 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Maybe that guy was playing to much SH and he got used to that

07-19-08, 10:00 AM	#12
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I once saw something similar where a Russian submarine surfaced underneath an old man and a boy in a boat (or maybe they were ice fishing, it's been a long time) and they shared Nestle Crunch bars. Incredible stuff. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

07-19-08, 10:04 AM	#13
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think they're faked. If you look closely at the first photo the black cable (boom stay?) passes in front of most of the periscopes but is partially obscured by the camouflaged one. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

07-19-08, 10:10 AM	#14
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Well there was that one accident where the US sub rammed the Japanese ship, created a lot of bad blood I remember.

07-19-08, 10:36 AM	#15
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That's one crazy photo for sure ... Reminds me of a sea story ... we were in the South China sea one time at about 64' snorkeling on the USS Salmon SS-573 when we heard a big bang, secure from snorkeling, take a look around with number one scope, suface, surface ... The bow was covered with a near-by fishing boats fishing nets, not a big modern fishing boat, but an old tired Chinese type. We cut it off and sent a diver down to make sure no damage to the underside. While waiting for clearence to dive again the fishing boat hails us and demands money for their nets. The chief of the boat takes up a collection from the crew and gives the poor fisherman the money. "Okey dokey you guys can go now" The fishing boat pushes off. He was happy and we slide back under the waves. Year 1963 ... P.S. notice the third picture from the top and how the boat is going the other direction, plus the background clouds are all different ... placement of the mast is different in two pictures too. __________________