Obama's message of hope and change

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

Pretty simple. Assasination attempts...

In all seriousness the Secret Service is probably already thinking about that. They've probably had a lot of OJT with Bush who will probably be the most protected ex in our history.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

In all seriousness the Secret Service is probably already thinking about that. They've probably had a lot of OJT with Bush who will probably be the most protected ex in our history.

Actually Bush will be the first President under the new "10 year" rule.

In the past former presidents and their spouses received protection for the rest of their lives. This has been changed. Starting with Bush former presidents and spouses will receive protection for 10 Years.

The same 10 year rule will apply to McCain or Obama.

If Hillary Clinton is elected President, she will continue receiving protection under the old "spousal" rule for the rest of her life.

[Tchocky]

Obama has been under advanced protection for a while, as far as I know it doesn't usually start until the nominee is decided.

Take from that what you will.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Actually Bush will be the first President under the new "10 year" rule.

That means someone can toilet roll his house in ten years.

[XabbaRus]

OK who decided that Florida and Michigan wouldn't be counted? Question 2, would Hillary have know about this before the whole thing began? I assume that things like this the candidates are aware of before they start running. In running terms that's like being told there is a hole in the middle of the course don't fall in, and no one complains until they have fallen in.

Help a Brit who doesn't understand the US way of electing people.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

OK who decided that Florida and Michigan wouldn't be counted? Question 2, would Hillary have know about this before the whole thing began? I assume that things like this the candidates are aware of before they start running. In running terms that's like being told there is a hole in the middle of the course don't fall in, and no one complains until they have fallen in.

Help a Brit who doesn't understand the US way of electing people.

Florida and Michigan were told by the Democratic National Committee not to move their primaries up (timewise, a phenomenon called front loading) or their delegates would not be seated. They went ahead and moved them up anyways, and the DNC axed their delegates as promised. Hillary only really started caring when she started running out of options.

PD

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

Florida and Michigan were told by the Democratic National Committee not to move their primaries up (timewise, a phenomenon called front loading) or their delegates would not be seated. They went ahead and moved them up anyways, and the DNC axed their delegates as promised. Hillary only really started caring when she started running out of options.

PD

"The Obama and Edwards campaigns apparently got the word out pretty well to their supporters to vote uncommitted," said Vincent Hutchings, an associate professor in the political science department at the University of Michigan. "There's some thought that at some point they might reverse the decision to strip the delegates of their authority, and if they do, then Edwards and Obama wanted to have the opportunity to have those delegates vote for them at the convention, which they can do if they're uncommitted, but not if they write their names in. By state law, if the names were written in, then they wouldn't be counted."


http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/157...16/index.jhtml

A little hope and change maneuver?:hmm:

Obama cared enough to take the high ground while in the back ground he was doing something else.

Sorta lends credence to Obama taking his name off the ballot because he knew he would lose.

Its not like they did not know the punishment could change either.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

OK who decided that Florida and Michigan wouldn't be counted? Question 2, would Hillary have know about this before the whole thing began? I assume that things like this the candidates are aware of before they start running. In running terms that's like being told there is a hole in the middle of the course don't fall in, and no one complains until they have fallen in.

Help a Brit who doesn't understand the US way of electing people.

The party decided and they were warned they wouldn't be counted. I guess they didn't believe them. They do now. Both canidates were aware and weren't supposed to campaign there. I believe Hillary went to Florida but was more or less warned off.
Thats how I remember it anyway.

[XabbaRus]

Right well sounds like Hillary has nothing to complain about and Obama getting his supporters to be undecided quite an astute move. As long as it isn't illegal who cares. I'm not an Obama supporter but I don't like Hillary, she reminds me of Maggie in this fervour she has, except 10 times worse. Oh and Maggie's husband kept his nose out of politics.

Also though I am British as the old saying goes, what happens over there has an influence here. Coming to think of it Obama or McCain good, but Hilary over in DC and Brown here...argggggg.

[TDK1044]

Barack Obama
Pledged: 1660
Superdelegates: 309
Total: 1,969


Hillary Clinton
Pledged: 1500
Superdelegates: 279
Total: 1,779


Delegates needed. 2,026. The sooner June 3rd comes the better for all.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Not too hard to find. Just tap in "Obama change"
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Obama...tForChange.pdf

They ain't gone read that don't you think?:hmm:

[bradclark1]

I doubt it. Can't say I even read it but for a little bit.