newbie help

bigbobsr6000 · 05-21-08, 12:57 PM

Always get sunk by destroyers. I have realism at 0 still slow load time and slow repair. I really suck at this. This is my first cp sub game and so far, I do not enjoy it at all.

Please any help would be appreciated. I have upgraded to 1.4v patch.

Is there any cheat codes or mods?

DavyJonesFootlocker · 05-21-08, 01:15 PM

Dude, you suck. Better off playing Barbie's Horse Adventures. (just kidding).

Cheat codes? What!? Don't say that word around here. We have die-hard realists here. Here's what to do- just spend some time practicing. There's tons of info on how to get around things. Folks here are good at advice giving. Have fun and stay away from Peabody-he's stinky and DJFL- he's plumb nuts!

howler93 · 05-21-08, 01:25 PM

First,
welcome to subsim...you came to the right place for help! First off, if this is your first time playing a submarine sim, it's quite an adjustment from other games/sims. If you're having trouble with destroyers, my first guess is that they may have spotted your sub or it's scope. Stealth is the name of the game with subs. I would recommend reading some of the sticky threads for excellent tips and advice. SH4 is an excellent game, so try not to get discouraged. Once you get a hang of things, there are some wonderful mods that can be found here in the mods section. Anyways, best of luck, and hang in there!

Good hunting,
Howler

Rockin Robbins · 05-21-08, 01:51 PM

I would recommend just staying away from the DDs until you have your boat handling skills down. Attack lone or unescorted targets only until boat handling is second nature and you have some idea how to reliably shoot a torpedo.

These DD skippers are good. You are not--yet. Take it slow. Don't get sucked into using manual targeting or fancy techniques by us fanatics.

And welcome to SUBSIM!

banjo · 05-21-08, 03:07 PM

Rockin is right--avoid escorted convoys. They are the most fun, but later for you.
Some general guildlines for when you do attack an escorted convoy:

get in front of the convoy or 2000 yards off to one side and submerge below the thermal layer, 200 ft or so.

after the escort goes by (blue sound line on your map) go to periscope depth.

find targets and shoot (you should be using auto targeting). dont forget to open your torpedo doors or you shots will hit rear of your aim point. also, preset your torps to medium (that is the highest there is).

after you've shot at everything in range or all tubes are empty release a decoy and dive deep. start at 250 feet but be ready to go lower. watch your map (or external view - F12) to see if escorts are coming to you. if they are go to silent running and go deeper. release another decoy. orient your sub so the smallest siloette (sp) shows to the escorts. creep away until safe.

There are a few additional techniques but that is enuf for now.

Think stealth, think sneaky.

bigbobsr6000 · 05-21-08, 10:05 PM

Thanks guys for your help and thoughts.

I did play a lot of Silent Service years ago, and I really liked that game.

No offense meant to the gamers about the cheat stuff.

Big Bob.................

bigbobsr6000 · 05-22-08, 12:02 AM

I completed my first career mission! I got my sub and crew back with no damage and no injuries!! I finally did it. Thanks again for all your suggestions and comments.

McBeck · 05-22-08, 01:36 AM

Silence is the name of the game here.

I allways go deep and silent if I have been spotted. I the escort is close/on approach I stop the engines.

Sailor Steve · 05-22-08, 07:26 AM

WELCOME ABOARD!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbobsr6000

No offense meant to the gamers about the cheat stuff.

Big Bob.................

You won't really offend most of us just by trying to learn the game. The best thing to do is take your time, and practice a lot with the external view. That, and stick around here and gather all the info you can. And don't forget to ask a lot of questions.

Oh, and congrats on that successful patrol!

DavyJonesFootlocker · 05-23-08, 07:08 AM

No offence taken, dude. Glad you got your feet wet in SH4. When you get good enough it's fun. Convoy attacking is daunting sometimes but stealth is the name of the game. By nature I'm a flight simmer and used to the old Tally-Ho attitude. It's different with sub sims. Oh, and Welcome to Subsim! Now, excuse me I have to throw Rockin Robbins overboard.:rotfl:

bigbobsr6000 · 05-23-08, 01:48 PM

Thanks for you guys support and words of encouragement. I am on my 3rd or 4th career mission now. Kinda getting the hang of it. Practed on quick missions alot. That seemed to help thru loads of trial and tons of error.

Big Bob..................

gAiNiAc · 05-23-08, 02:35 PM

Wait until you have to spend a real 5 hours avoiding depth charges!

DavyJonesFootlocker · 05-23-08, 03:20 PM

Hey, too soon to scare the guy. Wait until he hits those 15-foot waves.:rotfl:

Quillan · 05-23-08, 05:11 PM

Welcome aboard, skipper! It's always good to see someone new come into the genre. You've found the most helpful sim community on the net, IMO, and plenty of people here will be glad to help you out if you need it.

bigbobsr6000 · 05-23-08, 05:37 PM

Question: I took on a convoy and survived. Took damage. Damage Control repaired all. Have Green accross the board. Stayed on surface until damage was repaired. Now when I submerge below 10m to periscope depth, my sub collaspes and implodes. I saved game after all repairs. Loaded saved game and I went to Midway to get refitted via the surface. Even after rfitting, same thing happens. Sub sinks every time I submerge. Help Please

05-21-08, 12:57 PM	#1
bigbobsr6000 Watch Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	newbie help Always get sunk by destroyers. I have realism at 0 still slow load time and slow repair. I really suck at this. This is my first cp sub game and so far, I do not enjoy it at all. Please any help would be appreciated. I have upgraded to 1.4v patch. Is there any cheat codes or mods?

05-21-08, 01:15 PM	#2
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Dude, you suck. Better off playing Barbie's Horse Adventures. (just kidding). Cheat codes? What!? Don't say that word around here. We have die-hard realists here. Here's what to do- just spend some time practicing. There's tons of info on how to get around things. Folks here are good at advice giving. Have fun and stay away from Peabody-he's stinky and DJFL- he's plumb nuts! __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club

05-21-08, 01:51 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I would recommend just staying away from the DDs until you have your boat handling skills down. Attack lone or unescorted targets only until boat handling is second nature and you have some idea how to reliably shoot a torpedo. These DD skippers are good. You are not--yet. Take it slow. Don't get sucked into using manual targeting or fancy techniques by us fanatics. And welcome to SUBSIM! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

05-22-08, 01:36 AM	#8
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Silence is the name of the game here. I allways go deep and silent if I have been spotted. I the escort is close/on approach I stop the engines. __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

05-23-08, 07:08 AM	#10
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	No offence taken, dude. Glad you got your feet wet in SH4. When you get good enough it's fun. Convoy attacking is daunting sometimes but stealth is the name of the game. By nature I'm a flight simmer and used to the old Tally-Ho attitude. It's different with sub sims. Oh, and Welcome to Subsim! Now, excuse me I have to throw Rockin Robbins overboard.:rotfl: __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club

05-21-08, 01:25 PM	#3
howler93 Medic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Telluride, Colorado Posts: 162 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	First, welcome to subsim...you came to the right place for help! First off, if this is your first time playing a submarine sim, it's quite an adjustment from other games/sims. If you're having trouble with destroyers, my first guess is that they may have spotted your sub or it's scope. Stealth is the name of the game with subs. I would recommend reading some of the sticky threads for excellent tips and advice. SH4 is an excellent game, so try not to get discouraged. Once you get a hang of things, there are some wonderful mods that can be found here in the mods section. Anyways, best of luck, and hang in there! Good hunting, Howler

05-21-08, 03:07 PM	#5
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Rockin is right--avoid escorted convoys. They are the most fun, but later for you. Some general guildlines for when you do attack an escorted convoy: get in front of the convoy or 2000 yards off to one side and submerge below the thermal layer, 200 ft or so. after the escort goes by (blue sound line on your map) go to periscope depth. find targets and shoot (you should be using auto targeting). dont forget to open your torpedo doors or you shots will hit rear of your aim point. also, preset your torps to medium (that is the highest there is). after you've shot at everything in range or all tubes are empty release a decoy and dive deep. start at 250 feet but be ready to go lower. watch your map (or external view - F12) to see if escorts are coming to you. if they are go to silent running and go deeper. release another decoy. orient your sub so the smallest siloette (sp) shows to the escorts. creep away until safe. There are a few additional techniques but that is enuf for now. Think stealth, think sneaky.

05-21-08, 10:05 PM	#6
bigbobsr6000 Watch Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys for your help and thoughts. I did play a lot of Silent Service years ago, and I really liked that game. No offense meant to the gamers about the cheat stuff. Big Bob.................

05-22-08, 12:02 AM	#7
bigbobsr6000 Watch Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I completed my first career mission! I got my sub and crew back with no damage and no injuries!! I finally did it. Thanks again for all your suggestions and comments.

05-23-08, 01:48 PM	#11
bigbobsr6000 Watch Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for you guys support and words of encouragement. I am on my 3rd or 4th career mission now. Kinda getting the hang of it. Practed on quick missions alot. That seemed to help thru loads of trial and tons of error. Big Bob..................

05-23-08, 02:35 PM	#12
gAiNiAc Weps Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 369 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Wait until you have to spend a real 5 hours avoiding depth charges!

05-23-08, 03:20 PM	#13
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Hey, too soon to scare the guy. Wait until he hits those 15-foot waves.:rotfl: __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club

05-23-08, 05:11 PM	#14
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard, skipper! It's always good to see someone new come into the genre. You've found the most helpful sim community on the net, IMO, and plenty of people here will be glad to help you out if you need it. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

05-23-08, 05:37 PM	#15
bigbobsr6000 Watch Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Question: I took on a convoy and survived. Took damage. Damage Control repaired all. Have Green accross the board. Stayed on surface until damage was repaired. Now when I submerge below 10m to periscope depth, my sub collaspes and implodes. I saved game after all repairs. Loaded saved game and I went to Midway to get refitted via the surface. Even after rfitting, same thing happens. Sub sinks every time I submerge. Help Please