Shot by german sentry in Allied POW camp

BasilY · 05-15-08, 09:47 PM

"Lieutenant Commander Bruno Miller and U-2503 surrendered to the Allies on 20OCT44. Bruno Miller was sent to a POW camp in Scotland where he spent the rest of the war. A few days after the war ended, Bruno Miller died in an unfortunate accident. He was shot by a German sentry when he failed to identify himself or give the password. The unlucky shot, fired by the sentry at a target he could not even see in the darkness, struck Bruno Miller in the head, killing him instantly." -SH3 Commander

surf_ten · 05-15-08, 11:19 PM

I been reading up on the Germany's top tonnage aces and that exact senario happen to Oberleutnant Wolfgang Lüth. It seems so ironic after all this man had to endure to survive the war only to be cut down by some trigger happy guard. Perhaps the name of the guard was Bernard.

Reece · 05-16-08, 12:11 AM

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He was shot by a German sentry when he failed to identify himself or give the password. The unlucky shot, fired by the sentry at a target he could not even see in the darkness

That is exactly what happened to Wolfgang Luth, seems wierd that it happened to someone else the same way, maybe it was the same English born guard!

bookworm_020 · 05-16-08, 01:15 AM

A said way to finnish the war, you survive the war, but killed in peacetime!

Jimbuna · 05-16-08, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BasilY

"Lieutenant Commander Bruno Miller and U-2503 surrendered to the Allies on 20OCT44. Bruno Miller was sent to a POW camp in Scotland where he spent the rest of the war. A few days after the war ended, Bruno Miller died in an unfortunate accident. He was shot by a German sentry when he failed to identify himself or give the password. The unlucky shot, fired by the sentry at a target he could not even see in the darkness, struck Bruno Miller in the head, killing him instantly." -SH3 Commander

looks like he died twice then :p

http://uboat.net/boats/u2503.htm

JScones · 05-16-08, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

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He was shot by a German sentry when he failed to identify himself or give the password. The unlucky shot, fired by the sentry at a target he could not even see in the darkness

That is exactly what happened to Wolfgang Luth, seems wierd that it happened to someone else the same way, maybe it was the same English born guard!

Yeah, all of SH3Cmdr's post career and post war summaries are taken from real life. An unfortunate combination in this instance though where the post career history has the Commander in Scotland (reminds me of the movie, "McKenzie Break") but the post war history has him killed in Germany (Flensburg-Mürwik to be exact, as it is indeed from the death of Luth).

Myxale · 05-16-08, 06:59 AM

One of the best things in SH3Commander!

So far -knocks on wood- all my post war/ post career endings were with me dying of age!

predavolk · 05-16-08, 07:04 AM

I read about Luth in the book Lone Wolf. It was an interesting read, and inspired me to take my IX down around Freetown. Unfortunately (or fortunately), better targets have kept me from ever getting there, but I do plan on getting there eventually! The Caribean too for that matter. I recommend Lone Wolf for an illustration of mid-late war Type IX tactics.

Captain Nemo · 05-16-08, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by surf_ten

I been reading up on the Germany's top tonnage aces and that exact senario happen to Oberleutnant Wolfgang Lüth. It seems so ironic after all this man had to endure to survive the war only to be cut down by some trigger happy guard. Perhaps the name of the guard was Bernard.

The sentry was only doing his duty it was Lüth who was at fault. It has also been suggested that it was suicide or perhaps the guard just did not hear his response, I suppose we will never know. Not sure if this happened in a PoW camp though, I read the book about him and thought it took place in the Flensburg Naval Academy just after the war had ended.

Nemo

Sailor Steve · 05-16-08, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

Not sure if this happened in a PoW camp though, I read the book about him and thought it took place in the Flensburg Naval Academy just after the war had ended.

Nemo

JSCones explained that in post #6.

Captain Nemo · 05-16-08, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

Not sure if this happened in a PoW camp though, I read the book about him and thought it took place in the Flensburg Naval Academy just after the war had ended.

Nemo

JSCones explained that in post #6.

Apologies, in my rush to stick my oar in I missed JSCones comment.

Nemo

Sailor Steve · 05-16-08, 08:04 AM

I've been there and done that.

More times than I like to be reminded of.:rotfl:

BasilY · 05-18-08, 10:15 PM

I know what happen to Luth. He was shot in Flensburg in Germany, not an allied POW camp. I doubt any allied camps will allow GERMAN guards, let alone armed ones. It's probably just a small oversight by the otherwise wonderful SH3 folks.

Sailor Steve · 05-18-08, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BasilY

I know what happen to Luth. He was shot in Flensburg in Germany, not an allied POW camp. I doubt any allied camps will allow GERMAN guards, let alone armed ones. It's probably just a small oversight by the otherwise wonderful SH3 folks.

It's not an oversight at all. As I just said three posts up, JSCones, who put all those together, explained it in post #6 above.

JScones · 05-19-08, 02:36 AM

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It's probably just a small oversight...

Much like not reading the replies to your own thread. :hmm:

05-15-08, 09:47 PM	#1
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Shot by german sentry in Allied POW camp "Lieutenant Commander Bruno Miller and U-2503 surrendered to the Allies on 20OCT44. Bruno Miller was sent to a POW camp in Scotland where he spent the rest of the war. A few days after the war ended, Bruno Miller died in an unfortunate accident. He was shot by a German sentry when he failed to identify himself or give the password. The unlucky shot, fired by the sentry at a target he could not even see in the darkness, struck Bruno Miller in the head, killing him instantly." -SH3 Commander

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05-15-08, 11:19 PM	#2
surf_ten Loader Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 90 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I been reading up on the Germany's top tonnage aces and that exact senario happen to Oberleutnant Wolfgang Lüth. It seems so ironic after all this man had to endure to survive the war only to be cut down by some trigger happy guard. Perhaps the name of the guard was Bernard.

05-16-08, 07:04 AM	#8
predavolk Weps Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 369 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I read about Luth in the book Lone Wolf. It was an interesting read, and inspired me to take my IX down around Freetown. Unfortunately (or fortunately), better targets have kept me from ever getting there, but I do plan on getting there eventually! The Caribean too for that matter. I recommend Lone Wolf for an illustration of mid-late war Type IX tactics.

05-18-08, 10:15 PM	#13
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I know what happen to Luth. He was shot in Flensburg in Germany, not an allied POW camp. I doubt any allied camps will allow GERMAN guards, let alone armed ones. It's probably just a small oversight by the otherwise wonderful SH3 folks.