I found a sitting duck

Yorktown_Class · 05-12-08, 10:12 PM

RMS Queen Mary,it was sitting in BE 55 not moving at all,it was on an easterly coarse but not moving at all,and it was making the sounds of a sinking ship.

I hit it with one torpedo on the bow and she went down,what would cause this to happen?
Here is all my mods..Thanks in advance..

05-12-08, 10:18 PM

Not sure which Mod Pack has that unit in it.
But,
If it was not checked and corrected for the sinking ship bug?
That's my first guess.
That's what I'd check first.

Many times units are built on visuals alone.
No regards to the critical files, reflections, etc.

There are many good ship builders out there.
Not many GREAT ship builders though.

Yorktown_Class · 05-12-08, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Not sure which Mod Pack has that unit in it.
But,
If it was not checked and corrected for the sinking ship bug?
That's my first guess.
That's what I'd check first.

Many times units are built on visuals alone.
No regards to the critical files, reflections, etc.

There are many good ship builders out there.
Not many GREAT ship builders though.

This is were I got it from..
80,000 tons looks good for the tonnage

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

05-12-08, 10:36 PM

OK.
Nice Ships.
I have not looked at them.
But I still stand by what I said before.
When you create a new unit, many things must be adjusted.
If you don't make those adjustments?
You get strange results.
If you clone a bad unit with the sinking ship bug?
Guess what you get?
A new unit with the sinking ship bug!!!
I have seen 3rd generation clones with reflections from the original unit!
AS I said, the are many good ship builders.
But there are very few GREAT ship builders!

Yorktown_Class · 05-12-08, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

OK.
Nice Ships.
I have not looked at them.
But I still stand by what I said before.
When you create a new unit, many things must be adjusted.
If you don't make those adjustments?
You get strange results.
If you clone a bad unit with the sinking ship bug?
Guess what you get?
A new unit with the sinking ship bug!!!
I have seen 3rd generation clones with reflections from the original unit!
AS I said, the are many good ship builders.
But there are very few GREAT ship builders!

Ok thanks,I will look into that

05-12-08, 10:57 PM

If you use S3D,
check the sim file.
the draught and mass settings compaired to the cfg file
is what you want to look at.
There is also a kind of offset.
Look at the Bismark sim and cfg files to see what I mean.
Those are finely tuned and provide a kind of guide that I have found to be
optimal for nearly all situations.

Reece · 05-12-08, 11:09 PM

Hi Privateer, I use VonDos's Queen Mary, see this thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136372
Although I use it in GWX 1.03 I have never had any problems, the link above shows it after 2 torpedo hits, took about 10 minutes to go down, quite spectacular, so definitely worth persevering!!

VonDos · 05-12-08, 11:37 PM

I thought this problem was eliminated from time...
Like reece, i never had any problem.
BTW, if problem is, i must resolve it! :hmm:

Privateer, you say i must see the draught and mass voices of sim and cfg files?

OK, I'll correct all differences.
BTW, can you say me what is UD parameter and how to set it, please?

05-13-08, 12:27 AM

The biggest thing with the sink ship bug is:
at times you'll find it sitting still, floating above water, or floundering.
If it's sailing fine and you whack it, it sinks fine!
It's a well known bug.
It's easy to fix.
We have posted the way to fix it MANY times!!
Those that have units out there with this problem ARE fixing it!
Kudos to them!

I know Von Dos is on it!!

It's not my intent to insult anyone for thier hard work.
It is my intent to help make them better at what they are doing!

VonDos · 05-13-08, 06:51 AM

Thanks for your help ^_^
Yes, i'm working on this bug.
This problem is condivided by QM, Rex and Empress of Britain; when ready i'll release update version for every ship involved; i'm sorry for this problem, be patient, i'm working for you

ps If someone have any idea about ships that stop themself and sink, is welcome!

Yorktown_Class · 05-13-08, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDos

Thanks for your help ^_^
Yes, i'm working on this bug.
This problem is condivided by QM, Rex and Empress of Britain; when ready i'll release update version for every ship involved; i'm sorry for this problem, be patient, i'm working for you

ps If someone have any idea about ships that stop themself and sink, is welcome!

Dont worry about it VonDos,I know you will figure it out...Your ships are awesome

VonDos · 05-13-08, 04:14 PM

Queen Mary is fixed; see my shipyard for download, or his page

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136737

soon FIXED Empress Of Britain and Rex

05-12-08, 10:12 PM	#1
Yorktown_Class Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 263 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 0	I found a sitting duck RMS Queen Mary,it was sitting in BE 55 not moving at all,it was on an easterly coarse but not moving at all,and it was making the sounds of a sinking ship. I hit it with one torpedo on the bow and she went down,what would cause this to happen? Here is all my mods..Thanks in advance.. __________________ David

05-12-08, 11:09 PM	#7
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,701 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Hi Privateer, I use VonDos's Queen Mary, see this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136372 Although I use it in GWX 1.03 I have never had any problems, the link above shows it after 2 torpedo hits, took about 10 minutes to go down, quite spectacular, so definitely worth persevering!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

05-12-08, 11:37 PM	#8
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,352 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 60	I thought this problem was eliminated from time... Like reece, i never had any problem. BTW, if problem is, i must resolve it! :hmm: Privateer, you say i must see the draught and mass voices of sim and cfg files? OK, I'll correct all differences. BTW, can you say me what is UD parameter and how to set it, please? __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508 Last edited by VonDos; 05-12-08 at 11:53 PM.

05-13-08, 06:51 AM	#10
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,352 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 60	Thanks for your help ^_^ Yes, i'm working on this bug. This problem is condivided by QM, Rex and Empress of Britain; when ready i'll release update version for every ship involved; i'm sorry for this problem, be patient, i'm working for you ps If someone have any idea about ships that stop themself and sink, is welcome! __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508 Last edited by VonDos; 05-13-08 at 07:54 AM.

05-13-08, 04:14 PM	#12
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,352 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 60	Queen Mary is fixed; see my shipyard for download, or his page http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136737 soon FIXED Empress Of Britain and Rex __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

05-12-08, 10:18 PM	#2
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Not sure which Mod Pack has that unit in it. But, If it was not checked and corrected for the sinking ship bug? That's my first guess. That's what I'd check first. Many times units are built on visuals alone. No regards to the critical files, reflections, etc. There are many good ship builders out there. Not many GREAT ship builders though.

05-12-08, 10:36 PM	#4
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	OK. Nice Ships. I have not looked at them. But I still stand by what I said before. When you create a new unit, many things must be adjusted. If you don't make those adjustments? You get strange results. If you clone a bad unit with the sinking ship bug? Guess what you get? A new unit with the sinking ship bug!!! I have seen 3rd generation clones with reflections from the original unit! AS I said, the are many good ship builders. But there are very few GREAT ship builders!

05-12-08, 10:57 PM	#6
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If you use S3D, check the sim file. the draught and mass settings compaired to the cfg file is what you want to look at. There is also a kind of offset. Look at the Bismark sim and cfg files to see what I mean. Those are finely tuned and provide a kind of guide that I have found to be optimal for nearly all situations.

05-13-08, 12:27 AM	#9
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The biggest thing with the sink ship bug is: at times you'll find it sitting still, floating above water, or floundering. If it's sailing fine and you whack it, it sinks fine! It's a well known bug. It's easy to fix. We have posted the way to fix it MANY times!! Those that have units out there with this problem ARE fixing it! Kudos to them! I know Von Dos is on it!! It's not my intent to insult anyone for thier hard work. It is my intent to help make them better at what they are doing!