nooby question

U-84 · 04-04-08, 10:45 AM

just had a question concerning sinking neutral ships in SHIII...without any addons or mods does sinking a neutral ship lose renown, or gain no renown:hmm: ...maybe its just me, but the U.S. did use the lend lease for britain suppyling britain, just saying that maybe neutral ships should count as the one of main points of the U-boat was to sink merchant shipping to Great Britain, and to slowly choke the country. just my opinion here.

Sigurd · 04-04-08, 11:01 AM

Unless you mod the game, sinking Neutrals does loose renown. It never made much sense to me either, but its the way it was designed *shrug*. There is a way to change that, but unfortunately, I dont remember what it is. Its in one of the cfg files I believe.

ichso · 04-04-08, 11:02 AM

AFAIK you lose renown for sinking neutral ships in stock SH3.

EDIT: too slow

Hanomag · 04-04-08, 11:02 AM

From the ever elusive community manual.... hope this helps!

Sinking neutral ships. Neutral ships will cost you the same renown amount that you would earn for sinking the equivalent enemy ship. Armed neutral ships will also begin firing on you. As with sinking friendly ships, sinking neutrals can lead to the end of your career in the Kriegsmarine.

U-84 · 04-04-08, 11:07 AM

i have heard of people with mods to change the losing renown of sinking neutral ships...just wondering which addon/mod is that?:hmm:

Sigurd · 04-04-08, 11:24 AM

Its a tweak more then a mod. One of the CFG files (i think) has the values for renown.

Something like:
Enemy = 1
Neutral = -1
Friendly = -1000

All you do is change the value for Neutral to -1 to 0, or 1. 1 will increase your renown if you sink a neutral, and 0 will leave it the same. Pick which one you'd like, but I think people that use the tweak suggest using 0 instead, as it does discourage sinking neutrals, but if you use one for target practice, or 'accidently' hit one in a convoy, you wont get in trouble.

U-84 · 04-04-08, 11:33 AM

sorry another nooby question here i apoligize, but how do i tweak it..sorry

Sigurd · 04-04-08, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by U-84

sorry another nooby question here i apoligize, but how do i tweak it..sorry

I just found it. Open up the basic.cfg (Silent Hunter 3 install path/data/cfg) in notepad. There is a section labeled [RENOWN]. Its similar to what I listed above, with 3 categories: Neutral, Allied, Axis. All you do is change the Neutral setting to 1 or 0 and you're fine.

U-84 · 04-04-08, 12:45 PM

thanks man appreciate it

Elmer Kosterman · 04-05-08, 08:19 AM

In Soviet Russia, renown looses YOU!

04-04-08, 10:45 AM	#1
U-84 Medic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: under you in my VIIC Posts: 168 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	nooby question just had a question concerning sinking neutral ships in SHIII...without any addons or mods does sinking a neutral ship lose renown, or gain no renown:hmm: ...maybe its just me, but the U.S. did use the lend lease for britain suppyling britain, just saying that maybe neutral ships should count as the one of main points of the U-boat was to sink merchant shipping to Great Britain, and to slowly choke the country. just my opinion here. __________________ Never fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning- Field Marshall Erwin Rommel Courage is being scared to death, but saddeling up anyways- John Wayne

04-04-08, 11:01 AM	#2
Sigurd Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 140 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Unless you mod the game, sinking Neutrals does loose renown. It never made much sense to me either, but its the way it was designed shrug. There is a way to change that, but unfortunately, I dont remember what it is. Its in one of the cfg files I believe. __________________ GWX 2.0 w/ OLC GUI 1.2.3 for GWX 2.0 DiD, 79% realism (by the OLC GUI standards). Currently taking a break from the Atlantic to hone my flight-sim skills

04-04-08, 11:02 AM	#3
ichso Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Germany's oldest city alive Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	AFAIK you lose renown for sinking neutral ships in stock SH3. EDIT: too slow __________________ My Subskins: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164169

04-04-08, 11:02 AM	#4
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	From the ever elusive community manual.... hope this helps! Sinking neutral ships. Neutral ships will cost you the same renown amount that you would earn for sinking the equivalent enemy ship. Armed neutral ships will also begin firing on you. As with sinking friendly ships, sinking neutrals can lead to the end of your career in the Kriegsmarine. __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

04-04-08, 11:07 AM	#5
U-84 Medic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: under you in my VIIC Posts: 168 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	i have heard of people with mods to change the losing renown of sinking neutral ships...just wondering which addon/mod is that?:hmm: __________________ Never fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning- Field Marshall Erwin Rommel Courage is being scared to death, but saddeling up anyways- John Wayne

04-04-08, 11:24 AM	#6
Sigurd Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 140 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Its a tweak more then a mod. One of the CFG files (i think) has the values for renown. Something like: Enemy = 1 Neutral = -1 Friendly = -1000 All you do is change the value for Neutral to -1 to 0, or 1. 1 will increase your renown if you sink a neutral, and 0 will leave it the same. Pick which one you'd like, but I think people that use the tweak suggest using 0 instead, as it does discourage sinking neutrals, but if you use one for target practice, or 'accidently' hit one in a convoy, you wont get in trouble. __________________ GWX 2.0 w/ OLC GUI 1.2.3 for GWX 2.0 DiD, 79% realism (by the OLC GUI standards). Currently taking a break from the Atlantic to hone my flight-sim skills

04-04-08, 11:33 AM	#7
U-84 Medic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: under you in my VIIC Posts: 168 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	sorry another nooby question here i apoligize, but how do i tweak it..sorry __________________ Never fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning- Field Marshall Erwin Rommel Courage is being scared to death, but saddeling up anyways- John Wayne

04-04-08, 12:45 PM	#9
U-84 Medic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: under you in my VIIC Posts: 168 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	thanks man appreciate it __________________ Never fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning- Field Marshall Erwin Rommel Courage is being scared to death, but saddeling up anyways- John Wayne

04-05-08, 08:19 AM	#10
Elmer Kosterman A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: München Posts: 71 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	In Soviet Russia, renown looses YOU!