Are You Comfortable With Muslims/Islamics?

[Wolfehunter]

I tried dating a muslim egyption chick once. She was hot. Man oh man she was hot. But her father and religion got in the way. He told me I had to convert to his religion. I told him I don't believe in religion and I wouldn't want to disrespect anyones religion by falsely agreeing to converted in something I don't believe in. So she chose her heritage I said good bye. That is that.

I have nothing against people as long as they don't force there ideals down my throat. I don't care what people believe in. If your happy, all the power to you.

But if someone tries to force there ideals on me then we will have a problem.

Peace all.

[Happy Times]

in islamic countries, if people want to go by sharia law, that's their choice. but i completely disagree w/ muslims trying to force sharia law into the jurisdiction of the western countries where they live, and i hate when they try and institute their local customs which aren't even sharia law into the jurisdiction. both in the quran and in mohammed's words, it's a muslim's duty to obey the local laws when in a foreign country.

but if muslims are living within the local laws, then there shouldn't be a problem. if someone comes to your country and tries to change it, then feel free to kick them out. but why should that concept apply only to western countries?

What do think of the sharia laws used in Saudi Arabia or Iran? Should we accept them as part of Islam? Do you think we have right to be concerned of the growing muslim population in Europe? Accept that this population might grow to be the majority? Do you meen that western countries have tried to change muslim countries in a negative way?

If I understand your question right, the majority of people i know don't have issues w/ McDonald's, Shakespeare, Shawshank Redemption, Radiohead, etc. Any arguments my family has are of the nature, "your choice in music sucks," or "you're not going out in those clothes."

that's a separate issue from western policies. and most of the muslims i know don't have an issue seperating individual westerners from the policies of their governments.

But the goverments are elected by the people and many support their policies. What do you think about those people? What kind of policies would they like to see from the goverments? Arent these also their goverments or are they first and foremost muslims?

Without going into personal details, I don't try and force my faith on others. I people ask about it, I give them what information/opinion I can. I don't have issues with Christians or Jews based on their faith. I pray. I fast. And every single Muslim I know personally does pretty much the same.

So that's why I get bent out of shape when people tar us all with the same brush -- because it denies individuality. and i disagree with skybird's opinion re there's only 1 way to follow the Quran, making me some kind of apostate because I'm not wearing a suicide vest right now -- how can that possibly be true if there are contradictory statements in the Quran itself?

Can you go in your mosque and say this? Will anyone disagree with you?

Prove you wrong in what? All Muslims are identical? If you believe that 1.5 billion people have exactly the same opinions and thoughts, I don't think there's much in the way of rational argument that will change your mind.

My question is, how can you take a the way a segment of a society acts, and extrapolate that to represent the entire society, more than a billion individuals?

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There have been polls that support the generalisation but offcourse we are all individuals if we go to that level.

[Sailor Steve]

I don't have a problem with anyone, unless they make one for me. People are people. Acknowledge everyone you meet. If they show themselves to be worth it, embrace them. If not, be prepared.

[silentrunner]

Someones religion does not have anything to do with my thaughts about people. Religion is a personal belief; so I could get along with a person regardless of religion. If I want people to respect m religion I must respect theirs.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Sorry i missed it, PM me if you have problem

That's alright, I was last night with some other issue that came to light which got me more and so on.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by STEED

That's alright, I was last night with some other issue that came to light which got me more and so on.

I also feel bad for being confrontational, i just feel strongly on the subject and think it is important. I really felt freedom of speech took a step back yesterday. Ofcourse i cant except everyone to agree, "i would die for your right to disagree with me".

[Trex]

History has a way of repeating itself.

If one looks at Elizabethan England (and considerably later, come to think of it), there was a religious group feared and ostracized by the majority. One could not marry into their group unless one changed to their faith. While the majority were peaceful citizens who wished only to live life their own way, they were distrusted by the majority for allegedly having more loyalty to their religion than to the state. Some of their members had committed and had attempted to commit acts of mass terror, including bombings. Foreign personnel slipped covertly into the country to incite hatred and acts of vengeance from secret safe houses. Small bands in the country carried out acts of violence, while larger numbers trained overseas for the final battle to convert England, by force if need be, to the True Faith. It was in many ways a time of terror, distrust and xenophobia.

The group? Roman Catholics.

We survived that cultural clash. I think we will survive this one.

[DeepIron]

I don't have a problem with anyone, unless they make one for me.

Pretty much covers it for me...

[Etienne]

Starting when someone post a primordial thread (PT) on islam (a), likelihood of muslim related threads (b, c, ..., n) will increase exponentially until the entire first page of GT (G1) is covered only by Islam / Israel / Jihad threads, stickies, and the curiosity killed the cat thread (Ω). This is compounded by the overall human moderator annoyance numbers (OH-MAN).

The Fed Up Level (FU) will then be reached, indicating the end of the current islamic period (PT-FU) and muslim threads will disappear for a period, which last until the occurence of terrorism and cultural accomodation in world events as a function of certain posters' free time that will attain the sufficient internet outrage point (ZOMG) for a triggering event (PT).

Sadly, I don't have Excel on this computer to come up with a graph. :-D

In short: Every couple of months, we get into the Islam fad. It'll go away. Time your vacation from subsim right, and you can avoid them entirely!

[bradclark1]

The voice of a few project an image of the many. What hurts the many is their silence.
Thats why I chose no.

There certainly is too many Islam threads of late.

[STEED]

Are You Comfortable With Muslims/Islamics?

I am more concerned about the Political Correctness lobby that has some sort of a strangle hold over our government. Why the heck my government can not see the this PC lobby is using Muslims as an excuse to set there agenda is belong me. Sure we have hot head Muslims who want there law on all of us and yet we also have white trash kids running a muck and running rings around the Police and are weak laws.

The PC lobby is a bigger threat to this country than Muslims, true to say I don't know what is going on in your country's and have no idea what you see as your biggest threat but I know this for a fact, PC in this country has coursed cracks in society to enlarged and distrust all round. Political party's are all on the make with there sleazy corruption, they live in fantasy world and fiddle while this country goes further down the pan with all our problems.

No wonder this country is tearing it's self apart as no one wants to get off there fat ass and grab the nettle and take the pain to fix the bloody mess we are in. Muslims are not our number one problem at all, PC is our number one problem which acts like the mafia at times.

[Etienne]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

The voice of a few project an image of the many. What hurts the many is their silence.

Peacefullness and wisdom don't make for good ratings; as such, they don't usually get proportional attention.

Edited to add: We need one of those "XXX DAYS WITHOUT WORKPLACE ACCIDENTS" signs... But ours needs to say "XXX DAYS WITHOUT ANOTHER ISLAM THREAD"... I don't think we'll need more than one digit.

[marooned]

im new here so dont want to rock the boat too much but i really feel that anyone who hasnt discovered evolution in this modern age is really walking around with their eyes ears and minds closed.
im sick to the back teeth of muslims and we europeans have nothing to gain from a culture like that.
we are fools and i could go on but its pointless anyway the answer is no i dont feel comfortable with them and avoid them like the plague.
(by the way i noticed ive changed status) whats nub?

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by marooned

im new here so dont want to rock the boat too much but i really feel that anyone who hasnt discovered evolution in this modern age is really walking around with their eyes ears and minds closed.
im sick to the back teeth of muslims and we europeans have nothing to gain from a culture like that.
we are fools and i could go on but its pointless anyway the answer is no i dont feel comfortable with them and avoid them like the plague.
(by the way i noticed ive changed status) whats nub?

You will soon find out.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by marooned

whats nub?

USN slang: Non-Useful Body. A new crew member on a ship. Don't worry, you'll ache for the days of the Nub once the Medic comes around.

This thread, and the other two just like it, are on the fast track to nowhere. There is nothing here that has not been said repeatedly over the past two years. No one's position is ever changed. No one moves toward the center. All that results are locked threads, hard feelings and banned users.

Let's try to wrap it up peacably.

The Management