Let's Butt Heads With An Add-on - Page 2

tater · 03-02-08, 01:22 PM

No. It would be cool to BP-clone ships and have some riding lower, though...

That was actually a non-trivial matter with merchant ships. Their draft, and hence mast height could very easily change by many feet.

Biyo Maru, for example has a draft of 26' loaded, and 8' light, according to ONI-208 J!

Frankly, given the fact that the game doesn't seem to do this (does it?) I'd be inclined to treat the loaded vs unloaded values as an error bar on the mast height.

Biyo is 82' with a 18' slop. I'd set the mast height wrong by 9', lol.

tater

theluckyone17 · 03-02-08, 02:03 PM

Do all the ships *have* to have an entry in the I.D. book?

'Cause I'd personally love to see the ONI heights listed in the book, then 3 cloned ships for each merchant ship... one loaded, one unloaded, and one in the middle. Makes things a bit more realistic and problematic.

Having each show up in the I.D. book would be more than a little on the irritatin' side, however. Clicking three times to progress through one ship would drive me crazy.

tater · 03-02-08, 02:13 PM

Heheh. No, they don't. I can do this now, in fact. In Names.cfg you add new unit types. The ships appear, but they don't get a rec manual entry.

I have plans to use this

It's in an old thread on adding ships in the mods forum.

;Merchant ships
Type100=Replenishment
Type101=Tanker
Type102=Cargo
Type103=Troop Transport
Type104=Coastal Vessel
Type105=Life Raft
Type106=Survivor
Type107=Environmental

Add:
Type108=CargoEmpty
Type109=CargoLoaded

You'd have to clone the ships, make the changes, then explicitly add those types into the campaign, then.

theluckyone17 · 03-02-08, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

I have plans to use this

I can feel the cursing and headache comin' on already

. Sadly, that's a good thing

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CapnScurvy · 03-03-08, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

Heheh. No, they don't. I can do this now, in fact. In Names.cfg you add new unit types. The ships appear, but they don't get a rec manual entry.

I have plans to use this

It's in an old thread on adding ships in the mods forum.

;Merchant ships
Type100=Replenishment
Type101=Tanker
Type102=Cargo
Type103=Troop Transport
Type104=Coastal Vessel
Type105=Life Raft
Type106=Survivor
Type107=Environmental

Add:
Type108=CargoEmpty
Type109=CargoLoaded

You'd have to clone the ships, make the changes, then explicitly add those types into the campaign, then.

I have a version of this in my latest 1.2 "manual Ship Centered, Accuracy Fix" mod. The little easter egg I put in uses one of the Iceberg files for inputting the candy into the game engine. Whoever saw an iceberg in the South Pacific military field of operations anyway? North yes, South no.

03-02-08, 01:22 PM	#16
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	No. It would be cool to BP-clone ships and have some riding lower, though... That was actually a non-trivial matter with merchant ships. Their draft, and hence mast height could very easily change by many feet. Biyo Maru, for example has a draft of 26' loaded, and 8' light, according to ONI-208 J! Frankly, given the fact that the game doesn't seem to do this (does it?) I'd be inclined to treat the loaded vs unloaded values as an error bar on the mast height. Biyo is 82' with a 18' slop. I'd set the mast height wrong by 9', lol. tater

03-02-08, 02:03 PM	#17
theluckyone17 Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: Niskayuna, NY Posts: 482 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	Do all the ships have to have an entry in the I.D. book? 'Cause I'd personally love to see the ONI heights listed in the book, then 3 cloned ships for each merchant ship... one loaded, one unloaded, and one in the middle. Makes things a bit more realistic and problematic. Having each show up in the I.D. book would be more than a little on the irritatin' side, however. Clicking three times to progress through one ship would drive me crazy.

03-02-08, 02:13 PM	#18
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Heheh. No, they don't. I can do this now, in fact. In Names.cfg you add new unit types. The ships appear, but they don't get a rec manual entry. I have plans to use this It's in an old thread on adding ships in the mods forum. ;Merchant ships Type100=Replenishment Type101=Tanker Type102=Cargo Type103=Troop Transport Type104=Coastal Vessel Type105=Life Raft Type106=Survivor Type107=Environmental Add: Type108=CargoEmpty Type109=CargoLoaded You'd have to clone the ships, make the changes, then explicitly add those types into the campaign, then.