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Old 02-27-08, 02:15 PM   #1
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I agree with the Daily Mail

Yes you heard me I am with them on this one.

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Banish The Bags: The Mail launches a campaign to clean up the country ... and the planet

A typical British family heads home laden with plastic bags packed full of the weekly supermarket shop...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=519770&in_page_id=1770
The amount of plastic shopping bags around here is a bloody mess and I for one stopped using them back in October last year and never looked back, I bought some nice fold away bags for 69p each and they are great. There is no excuse for using plastic bags now, they split and dig into your fingers which for me is no more.

And yes they are causing harm to the environment.
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Old 02-27-08, 02:16 PM   #2
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Me too

Got there ahead of you, though

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic...ng_bag#Ireland
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Old 02-27-08, 02:22 PM   #3
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Yes you heard me I am with them on this one.

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Banish The Bags: The Mail launches a campaign to clean up the country ... and the planet

A typical British family heads home laden with plastic bags packed full of the weekly supermarket shop...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=519770&in_page_id=1770
The amount of plastic shopping bags around here is a bloody mess and I for one stopped using them back in October last year and never looked back, I bought some nice fold away bags for 69p each and they are great. There is no excuse for using plastic bags now, they split and dig into your fingers which for me is no more.

And yes they are causing harm to the environment.
I reuse my plastic bags for many things around the home. I sometimes use them to hold parts that won't fit in my briefcase to using them to hold garbage during collection around the house (saves a lot of effort) and for the most part, they are somewhat water proof and air proof so I usually don't throw them out when I get home from the grocery store.

I bet if you analyzed the waste from plastic bags, you wouldn't find almost 0 measurable land fill use due to how thin a material they are. Just my thoughts.

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Old 02-27-08, 02:36 PM   #4
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I bet if you analyzed the waste from plastic bags, you wouldn't find almost 0 measurable land fill use due to how thin a material they are. Just my thoughts.

-S
I would say around here 7 are thrown out on the streets 2 are binned and 1 recycled.
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Old 02-27-08, 02:39 PM   #5
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We still use plastic bags when doing our grocery shopping. However we do try to cram as much as possible in each bag at the supermarket. We end up with about 4 or 5 bags per weekly shop. We then re-use these bags as our garbage bags for the bin in the kitchen and for similar uses as Subman described.

A bigger problem are those that just dump their litter out of the car window and in the streets because this is the stuff that ends up in our oceans via the storm water drains.
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Old 02-27-08, 02:40 PM   #6
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Heard the guy from Tescos on Talk Sport radio today - aparently all the Tesco bags are biodegradable. I always refuse the plastic bag at the corner shop where i get my ciggies.:hmm:
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Old 02-27-08, 02:43 PM   #7
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A bigger problem are those that just dump their litter out of the car window and in the streets because this is the stuff that ends up in our oceans via the storm water drains.
Thereby interfering with our periscopes and torpedo tubes!!

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I still use them occasionally, but try to reuse them as much as I can before they break. If I'm just getting a drink I'll say no to a bag, I mean you've got hands so why get a bag for a drink? I think stores like Aldi are right for charging extra for people to use bags.
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We have a whole sack of them here, incase we suddenly need to carry lots. When they break, they're recycled
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We have a whole sack of them here, incase we suddenly need to carry lots. When they break, they're recycled
I got a whole sack of them too. If I plan to throw out my bags after getting home, I usually opt for paper sacks. If I need plastic bags, I'll get plastic. I have to say that getting rid of them is not a good idea. It is simply more a case of normal people using them more wisely instead of being wasteful.

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We have a whole sack of them here, incase we suddenly need to carry lots. When they break, they're recycled
I got a whole sack of them too. If I plan to throw out my bags after getting home, I usually opt for paper sacks. If I need plastic bags, I'll get plastic. I have to say that getting rid of them is not a good idea. It is simply more a case of normal people using them more wisely instead of being wasteful.

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10,000 plastic bags are on the way, will that keep you happy?
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Siara,
Errm best point out something

watched a usa docu on a dig at a massive landfill, think it stopped filling in 1999

They excavated rubbish from the 1920's in pristine condition, and i mean pristine, soup cans with labels as fresh as day they were printed, wooden cigar boxes un rotten etc, Biodegrable plastic bags that were intact obviously from latter fills

Seems the boffins had forgot 1 thing, To decay whether it be wood/steel and even biodegrable bags you need air, Now large landfills are lined with clays and sheeting, then a criss cross of airating pipework installed to make sure things decay

Bit of an eye opener for me as i stopped using carrier bags ages ago in favour of sturdy green ones from wilco's

The history from rubbish they unearthed was amazing, rate it as one of the most interesting/informative things i'd seen on discovery or whatever side it was on

Ohh if you want air biodegrable carriers use wilcos ones, They flake into bits and honestly this is just in daylight

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I use canvas bags

of course I dont shop much either, and when I do I prefer to carry it myself

Here in Denver the local King Soopers started having special bins for plastic bags, so that they can be recycled.

Recycling is the best answer now. Hell, i recycle my receipt paper
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I bet if you analyzed the waste from plastic bags, you wouldn't find almost 0 measurable land fill use due to how thin a material they are. Just my thoughts.
Very true. However the problem is not the ones that make it to the land fill but rather the bags that wind up dangling from the branches of trees and blowing around like man made tumbleweeds everywhere people go. I've even found them laying in the woods half filled with rainwater and teeming with mosquito larve.
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M & S start charging for use of placky bags according to BBC article.
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