Vladimir Putin's Nuclear threat to the west

elite_hunter_sh3 · 02-15-08, 03:40 PM

Vladimir Putin has delivered perhaps his most menacing tirade against the West yet, repeating threats to train nuclear missiles on Europe and warning of unspecified retaliation if Kosovo declared independence.

Addressing his last press conference as Russian president, Mr Putin mounted a defiant display that demonstrated more emphatically than ever the widening gulf between Moscow and its former Cold War rivals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../wputin115.xml

... :hmm::hmm:

SUBMAN1 · 02-15-08, 03:43 PM

Didn't I say that this was happening a while back? The widening gulf between the US and Russia?

-S

elite_hunter_sh3 · 02-15-08, 04:01 PM

yep... still not sure wether its a good thing or a bad thing.. personally i would like to see Russia topple the EU...

Oberon · 02-15-08, 04:51 PM

No need, it'll topple itself before long.

Russian missiles trained on the West is nothing new, in fact, I really doubt they've been untrained since they were built.

SUBMAN1 · 02-15-08, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

No need, it'll topple itself before long.

Russian missiles trained on the West is nothing new, in fact, I really doubt they've been untrained since they were built.

Good point! I doubt the EU will fall - its exactly what elitists have been clammoring for, for decades. Russia however probably has the same settings on its missiles since 1980.

-S

XabbaRus · 02-15-08, 05:01 PM

Ah the torygraph and Putin, objective journalism at its best.

Wow....

STEED · 02-15-08, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

Vladimir Putin has delivered perhaps his most menacing tirade against the West yet, repeating threats to train nuclear missiles on Europe

Find my me as long as he targets the EU Parliament and blows it to hell.

Oberon · 02-15-08, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

Vladimir Putin has delivered perhaps his most menacing tirade against the West yet, repeating threats to train nuclear missiles on Europe

Find my me as long as he targets the EU Parliament and blows it to hell.

I thought you would be annoyed STEED, he'd be beating you to it. Stealing your thunder so to speak!

STEED · 02-15-08, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

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Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

Vladimir Putin has delivered perhaps his most menacing tirade against the West yet, repeating threats to train nuclear missiles on Europe

Find my me as long as he targets the EU Parliament and blows it to hell.

I thought you would be annoyed STEED, he'd be beating you to it. Stealing your thunder so to speak!

Not really just saves me the job in doing it. :rotfl:

I will just sit back in my deckchair and watch the EU Parliament go boom.

Steel_Tomb · 02-15-08, 07:04 PM

They say they have "plans" ready if Kosovo declares independence? Is he suggesting the use of force to prevent it? What would NATO's reaction be? It would be after all, an attack by the Russian armed forces against a European country! Looks like the ****s about to hit the fan!

Sea Demon · 02-15-08, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

They say they have "plans" ready if Kosovo declares independence? Is he suggesting the use of force to prevent it? What would NATO's reaction be? It would be after all, an attack by the Russian armed forces against a European country! Looks like the ****s about to hit the fan!

Russia using force against a European country, and directly in NATO's sphere would not be in Russia's interests. They know it, and we do as well.

CCIP · 02-15-08, 09:56 PM

Honestly, I don't think Russia gives a s*** about Kosovo.

No, it's certainly going to protest, but eh - it didn't do anything when Serbia was getting bombed, and it won't do anything now. Why would it? It's stupid and is a lose-lose situation for Russia.

sonar732 · 02-15-08, 10:07 PM

I think that the Kosovo and Ukraine threats by themselves would be harmless. However, the fact that they came so close together with actual warnings from Moscow regarding "we know what to do" and increased military exercises worries me a great deal.

Anyone who can say that this isn't something to raise eyebrows needs to look back at quite a few other "close calls".

Sea Demon · 02-15-08, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sonar732

I think that the Kosovo and Ukraine threats by themselves would be harmless. However, the fact that they came so close together with actual warnings from Moscow regarding "we know what to do" and increased military exercises worries me a great deal.

Anyone who can say that this isn't something to raise eyebrows needs to look back at quite a few other "close calls".

Agreed. I think it would be prudent to take Putin at his word. And let him know that what he proposes may not be in Russia's interests. I've been thinking lately that our navy ships shooting down that satellite may be a small response to Russian threats. Showing Russia that we can now shoot things down from space (like missiles) from mobile sea-based platforms may be a message in itself. I don't know, I'm just speculating. May not have anything to do with that at all. But Putin should take notice of that anyway. And his threats seem less than hollow. We are pointing alot of missiles and warheads in his direction as well.

baggygreen · 02-15-08, 10:39 PM

I thought that too

thankfully, there are still enough missiles and bombs in the world that MAD is the order of the day, and nobody wants that.

They'll kick up a stink and maybe even write a meanly worded letter to someone and that will be that

02-15-08, 03:40 PM	#1
elite_hunter_sh3 The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,376 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Vladimir Putin's Nuclear threat to the west Vladimir Putin has delivered perhaps his most menacing tirade against the West yet, repeating threats to train nuclear missiles on Europe and warning of unspecified retaliation if Kosovo declared independence. Addressing his last press conference as Russian president, Mr Putin mounted a defiant display that demonstrated more emphatically than ever the widening gulf between Moscow and its former Cold War rivals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../wputin115.xml ... :hmm::hmm:

02-15-08, 03:43 PM	#2
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Didn't I say that this was happening a while back? The widening gulf between the US and Russia? -S __________________

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ah the torygraph and Putin, objective journalism at its best. Wow.... __________________

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Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They say they have "plans" ready if Kosovo declares independence? Is he suggesting the use of force to prevent it? What would NATO's reaction be? It would be after all, an attack by the Russian armed forces against a European country! Looks like the **s about to hit the fan! __________________ _______________________________________________ System Spec: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz \| 4Gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator DDR2 PC-2 6400 RAM \| XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb PCI-E \| Creative X-fi sound card \| 250Gb HDD \| Rest In Peace Dave, you will be missed.**

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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Honestly, I don't think Russia gives a s* about Kosovo. No, it's certainly going to protest, but eh - it didn't do anything when Serbia was getting bombed, and it won't do anything now. Why would it? It's stupid and is a lose-lose situation for Russia. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet** (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-15-08, 04:01 PM	#3
elite_hunter_sh3 The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,376 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	yep... still not sure wether its a good thing or a bad thing.. personally i would like to see Russia topple the EU...

02-15-08, 04:51 PM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	No need, it'll topple itself before long. Russian missiles trained on the West is nothing new, in fact, I really doubt they've been untrained since they were built.

02-15-08, 10:07 PM	#13
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I think that the Kosovo and Ukraine threats by themselves would be harmless. However, the fact that they came so close together with actual warnings from Moscow regarding "we know what to do" and increased military exercises worries me a great deal. Anyone who can say that this isn't something to raise eyebrows needs to look back at quite a few other "close calls".

02-15-08, 10:39 PM	#15
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I thought that too thankfully, there are still enough missiles and bombs in the world that MAD is the order of the day, and nobody wants that. They'll kick up a stink and maybe even write a meanly worded letter to someone and that will be that