The Red Baron (2008) Movie Clips

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Biggles

Hm, Dowly, you know that some pilots where equipped with singal pistols, and obs. balloons were a prioritated target. However, balloon busting missions was EXTREMELY dangerous.

Yep, and what I also know is that the flare takes up to the wind easily. And considering the distance to the balloon and that era flare guns + add the wind there might be and the motion of the aircraft going 130+km/h.

[Oberon]

Some of those kites seem to be performing like F-18s and MiG-29s :p
However, it does make a nice change to see some Sopwiths and Fokkers taking the limelight.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Yep, and what I also know is that the flare takes up to the wind easily. And considering the distance to the balloon and that era flare guns + add the wind there might be and the motion of the aircraft going 130+km/h.

I always thought they used incendary bullets for obs balloons rather than a Very pistol... :hmm: Bit of Hollywood-ing there, methinks.

[StdDev]

Originally Posted by August

Underpowered and dangerous to fly.

Now the Dr.7 was the Fokker to have on the western front imo.

Fokker D-VII (D7) did not go into combat production until after Manfred's death.

The DR 1 was actually a fairly (relatively) nimble aircraft that could out manouver most other aircraft.. but it was slow.

Balloon busting was extremely dangerous because of the concentration of antiaircraft guns positioned around them.. the chances of taking one out with a flare gun is pretty d*mn low.. and if the pilot was not concentrating on dodging the AA fire, taking the time to load and fire a flare pistol at the balloon would prolly (I know.. probably.. easier to spell prolly :p ) be his last act.

At least the clips show some Albatross DIIIs in action (Richtoffen made 56 of his 80 confirmed kills in an Albaross DIII) ... unlike Flyboys where you'd think the Germans only flew DR 1s.

[Officerpuppy]

http://http://www.redbaron-themovie.com/index_en.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Baron_(film)

I might see an Euro release only but who knows, maybe it will be screened in those indie type move theaters as well, if not, the dvd release will surely come to the US coast.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Fokker DR.1.

I remember when I shot one of those down in Red Baron 3D. My mum came in and said "Did you get one?" I said "Yeah, I just shot a Fokker."

"WHAT DID YOU SAY?! "

[Oberon]

"Yes Michael, but those Fokkers were Messerschmits!"

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

I remember when I shot one of those down in Red Baron 3D. My mum came in and said "Did you get one?" I said "Yeah, I just shot a Fokker."

"WHAT DID YOU SAY?! "

:rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

I remember when I shot one of those down in Red Baron 3D. My mum came in and said "Did you get one?" I said "Yeah, I just shot a Fokker."

"WHAT DID YOU SAY?! "

LOL :rotfl:

[Biggles]

The Camel was a real bugger to fly, but performed well. Apparently it could do a bloody fast right turn. It's also stated that amongst the allied aircrafts, pilots using the Sopwith Camel shot down the highest number of enemies.

Otherwise, the S.E.5a was a real treat according to some.

[XabbaRus]

Crap. Seen better IL-2 movies.

Oh the Red Baron got his kills more from stalking than dogfighting.

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Oh the Red Baron got his kills more from stalking than dogfighting.

Same goes for Erich Hartmann.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Dowly

As for the movie itself, it looks awfully fast paced. In a bad way that is. Some of the scenes look like the planes are going 450km/h. Also, wtf was that scene where the pilot shot the zeppelin with a flare gun? Rrrrright...

Remember that planes accelerate when going in dives. Also, it's a balloon, not a zeppelin, and flare guns were occasionally used against them when incendiary ammunition was low.

Originally Posted by August

Underpowered and dangerous to fly.

The DR.1 was actually a much more nimble aircraft than any available at the time (better than the Camel). Although slow, it was a great dogfighter to experienced pilots, such as Werner Voss' last battle. Voss, against 5 British aces from No. 56 Squadron, single handedly engaged every one of them, putting rounds into every plane. Unfortunately, he made one fatal flying error that cost him the battle: he flew head on into the fire of Arthur Rhys Davids. The rounds apparently wounded Voss, and he either died in the cockpit or lost consciousness, for the Fokker went into a steep dive and made no attempt to pull up thereafter, smashing itself into a thousand fragments on the ground below.

In the case of Heinrich Gontermann, however, he was just a stupid buck trying to impress his Jasta by doing dangerous loops and dives. Thus, the upper wing broke away, and he smashed into the Earth, killing him instantly.

The DR.1 wasn't a bad plane. When given to a competent and skilled pilot, it could decide the very outcome of a battle. Aces such as Voss, the Richthofen brothers (Manfred and Lothar), Wolff, and Lowenhardt knew how to handle the plane adequately, and in the time that they did use them, it was to great success. Do note, however, that Lowenhardt was the only one who did not die in a DR.1 in combat. He was killed August 10, 1918 when he collided with Leutnant Alfred Wenz of his Jasta. He attempted to bail, and although he did his best, his parachute failed and he plunged to his death from 12,000-12,500 feet.

The D.VII, though, was definitely the best fighter of the war on any front, however; although one must remember that even the D.VII was not able to match the DR.1's amazing climbing abilities (hence the nickname "elevator"). The WORST plane of the war, however, I'd say was the fragile and underarmed Halberstadt. With only one Spandau machine gun and a very slow speed, the plane was vulnerable to enemy attack and was prone to break to pieces whilst going down.

[Gorduz]

I don't like the flying action at all, half of the fun with playing the old Red Baron game was its slow pace. You got an enemy on your tail, but you cannot just du anything to shake him ,I dont know how many times I ruined my plane by flying out of its structural limit.. Actions should be slow paced and with suspence, not like this And way to many planes I think as well.

[Stealth Hunter]

You mean Red Baron 3D? Red Baron (1990) was very fast in pace. Dogfights might last a maximum of two minutes!