Staying on the bridge longer

simsurfer · 02-03-08, 03:03 PM

In SHIII as soon as I order P depth or Dive or even Crash dive I am immediately placed in the control room, is there a way to delay that from happening and remain on the bridge longer? What do I need to edit?

02-03-08, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by simsurfer

In SHIII as soon as I order P depth or Dive or even Crash dive I am immediately placed in the control room, is there a way to delay that from happening and remain on the bridge longer? What do I need to edit?

I'm not sure why you'd want to remain on the watch tower longer.

One of the first things done during a normal dive was to clear the bridge and secure the hatch. After that the actual dive was started. A crash dive actually had the dive procedures started as the watch crew (or, Heaven forfend, gunnery crews or mainenance personnel) started heading inside. A risky procedure but, then again, you didn't just do a crash dive as a lark; there was a reason to get deep fast, after all.

Oberon · 02-03-08, 04:07 PM

"Tauchen!"

"Coming down Herr Kaleun?"

"Nein, it's a nice sunset, I want to admire the suns rays as it...hey...my feet are wet...Hey! Open that Verdamnt hatch!!"

deepboat · 02-03-08, 04:37 PM

While on this question another arises, why doesn't the watch officer appear on deck when you surface? Placing him there manually just gives me one more thing to do. Any thoughts?

simsurfer · 02-03-08, 05:18 PM

Not so sound rude but I didnt ask for a Uboat Policy Procedure. Perhaps me as the "Captain" of my boat want to be last man down the "hatch", this being the case it would take at least 5-10 seconds for the 4 men on the bridge to get below followed by me which is another 2 seconds (im in good shape for being 39). So, that is 7 seconds from the time I order a Dive on some type, not the nanosecond responce time I get now.

What line in the code do I need to edit.

Thanks,

Simsurfer

02-03-08, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simsurfer

Not so sound rude but I didnt ask for a Uboat Policy Procedure. Perhaps me as the "Captain" of my boat want to be last man down the "hatch", this being the case it would take at least 5-10 seconds for the 4 men on the bridge to get below followed by me which is another 2 seconds (im in good shape for being 39). So, that is 7 seconds from the time I order a Dive on some type, not the nanosecond responce time I get now.

What line in the code do I need to edit.

Thanks,

Simsurfer

True; sorry if we seemed 'preachy'. I'm afraid I've no idea what or where that can be changed (or even if it is at all possible to change). Hopefully someone will be able to get you an answer.

flag4 · 02-03-08, 06:31 PM

simsurfer,

have you been watching Das Boot ?

where Kaleun is seen staying on top as they make a run for the African coastal shelf...!

:hmm:

onelifecrisis · 02-03-08, 08:37 PM

Definitely not my area of expertise, but you could try this:

Go into the data\submarine\ folder. There you will find one folder for each sub type. Go into the NSS_Uboat7b\ folder, open NSS_Uboat7b.cfg, and change this line:

SurfaceDepth=8;meters

Make it, say, 10 instead of 8. Then run SH3 and test it in a Naval Academy mission.

I don't know if it'll work. Even if it does, it'll have other adverse effects (you'll be able to run with decks very awash). But, if you want it bad enough...

Assuming it works, you'll need to go into all the other submarine folders and make the same change.

Sailor Steve · 02-03-08, 11:07 PM

I think a worse flaw is the fact that you go directly to the control room, rather than through the conning tower. When you hit a dive key you should go to the tower...after a few seconds.

I agree it's a problem, but I don't think it can be changed; I'm pretty sure it's part of the dive routine.

harzfeld · 02-04-08, 01:05 AM

Why edit dive time while enemy planes in game usually traveling in speed of F-16? If I had to edit dive time, I would need to tune down every planes to slower speeds. Does the ladder between command room and bridge goes through conning tower while bridge watchers can hand on to the ladder and jump straight down to command room like firemen use firepole?

Sailor Steve · 02-04-08, 01:10 AM

Maybe. I hadn't thought of that. Probably correct.

02-04-08, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by harzfeld

Why edit dive time while enemy planes in game usually traveling in speed of F-16? If I had to edit dive time, I would need to tune down every planes to slower speeds. Does the ladder between command room and bridge goes through conning tower while bridge watchers can hand on to the ladder and jump straight down to command room like firemen use firepole?

Only problem with that is that at least one of them would have to stop in the conning tower in order to close and dog the hatch leading up to the watch tower.

Unless the positions are source hard-coded, I'd think that, somewhere, it could be changed that diving pops open the conning tower view instead of the command roon view.

TomcatMVD · 02-04-08, 08:29 AM

Didn't the watch crew slide through the ladder all the way down to the Control Room?:hmm:

Sailor Steve · 02-04-08, 02:17 PM

That's what harzfeld asked; and, as Albrecht Von Hesse pointed out, someone had to dog the conning tower hatch.

TarJak · 02-04-08, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Definitely not my area of expertise, but you could try this:

Go into the data\submarine\ folder. There you will find one folder for each sub type. Go into the NSS_Uboat7b\ folder, open NSS_Uboat7b.cfg, and change this line:

SurfaceDepth=8;meters

Make it, say, 10 instead of 8. Then run SH3 and test it in a Naval Academy mission.

I don't know if it'll work. Even if it does, it'll have other adverse effects (you'll be able to run with decks very awash). But, if you want it bad enough...

Assuming it works, you'll need to go into all the other submarine folders and make the same change.

I don't think this will work for what is being asked. Being decks awash has no impact on there being a delay between ordering a dive and being dumped into the Zentralle.

I don't know where you'd begin to look for that and in fact I doubt it is something you'll be able to edit anyway unless there is a parameter for the delay. My guess is that it's part of the hard coded dive routine and probably only possible to edit by opening up the source code and messing with stuff you're not allowed to mess with.

02-03-08, 03:03 PM	#1
simsurfer Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 342 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Staying on the bridge longer In SHIII as soon as I order P depth or Dive or even Crash dive I am immediately placed in the control room, is there a way to delay that from happening and remain on the bridge longer? What do I need to edit? __________________

02-03-08, 04:37 PM	#4
deepboat Gunner Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In an Octopuss' Garden Posts: 99 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	While on this question another arises, why doesn't the watch officer appear on deck when you surface? Placing him there manually just gives me one more thing to do. Any thoughts? __________________ Smoke on the horizon captain!

02-03-08, 05:18 PM	#5
simsurfer Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 342 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Not so sound rude but I didnt ask for a Uboat Policy Procedure. Perhaps me as the "Captain" of my boat want to be last man down the "hatch", this being the case it would take at least 5-10 seconds for the 4 men on the bridge to get below followed by me which is another 2 seconds (im in good shape for being 39). So, that is 7 seconds from the time I order a Dive on some type, not the nanosecond responce time I get now. What line in the code do I need to edit. Thanks, Simsurfer __________________

02-03-08, 06:31 PM	#7
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	simsurfer, have you been watching Das Boot ? where Kaleun is seen staying on top as they make a run for the African coastal shelf...! :hmm: __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

02-03-08, 08:37 PM	#8
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	Definitely not my area of expertise, but you could try this: Go into the data\submarine\ folder. There you will find one folder for each sub type. Go into the NSS_Uboat7b\ folder, open NSS_Uboat7b.cfg, and change this line: SurfaceDepth=8;meters Make it, say, 10 instead of 8. Then run SH3 and test it in a Naval Academy mission. I don't know if it'll work. Even if it does, it'll have other adverse effects (you'll be able to run with decks very awash). But, if you want it bad enough... Assuming it works, you'll need to go into all the other submarine folders and make the same change. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

02-03-08, 04:07 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	"Tauchen!" "Coming down Herr Kaleun?" "Nein, it's a nice sunset, I want to admire the suns rays as it...hey...my feet are wet...Hey! Open that Verdamnt hatch!!"

02-03-08, 11:07 PM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I think a worse flaw is the fact that you go directly to the control room, rather than through the conning tower. When you hit a dive key you should go to the tower...after a few seconds. I agree it's a problem, but I don't think it can be changed; I'm pretty sure it's part of the dive routine. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-04-08, 01:05 AM	#10
harzfeld Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 135 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why edit dive time while enemy planes in game usually traveling in speed of F-16? If I had to edit dive time, I would need to tune down every planes to slower speeds. Does the ladder between command room and bridge goes through conning tower while bridge watchers can hand on to the ladder and jump straight down to command room like firemen use firepole?

02-04-08, 01:10 AM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Maybe. I hadn't thought of that. Probably correct. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-04-08, 08:29 AM	#13
TomcatMVD Weps Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: MVD, UY Posts: 359 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Didn't the watch crew slide through the ladder all the way down to the Control Room?:hmm: __________________

02-04-08, 02:17 PM	#14
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	That's what harzfeld asked; and, as Albrecht Von Hesse pointed out, someone had to dog the conning tower hatch. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo