Who will be the next President of the United States?

[August]

Originally Posted by geetrue

Remember your heart August ... save it for the Super Bowl

Patriots FTW!

[SteminDemon13]

if this is a sticky thread can you please keep the poll open until before the elections?

[Onkel Neal]

The poll was taken when the field was open. Now it's pretty simple to guess the next President will be one of 5 people: McCain, O'Bama, Huckabee, Clinton, or Romney.

After the nominees are decided, we can open a new poll.

Right now, looks like these guys were right so far:

Hillary Clinton
AVGWarhawk, bybyx, Carotio, Chock, CptJoker, Delareon, DR_Woody, Fallen, fatty, GT182, Herr_Pete, iratecabbie, jimbuna, Johann Vilthomsen, JSLTIGER, Konovalov, Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg, Lurchi, mr chris, NEON DEON, RamRod, shevlin, TarJak, Tchocky, XabbaRus

Mike Huckabee
bookworm_020, danurve, geetrue, Kapitan_Phillips, Sixpack, The WosMan, VonHammer

John McCain
AG124, donut, Iceman, MothBalls, wetgoat

Barack Obama
badhat17, Biggles, Blacklight, Bort, DAB, Fish, GunnerGreg, headcase, Lagger123987, Peto, RickC Sniper, Stealth Hunter, Zepheron

Mitt Romney
-SWCowboy., nikimcbee, Sailor Steve

[Sailor Steve]

I don't really believe Mitt Romney will be the next president. I voted for him because of the Utah connection. I'm actually one of the few people who didn't like the job he did with the 2002 Olympics.


A side-note on the 'Dynasty' thing:

George Washington, the first president, was from Virginia. His Secretary of State was a fellow Virginian, Thomas Jefferson. Washington had no party, but is usually identified with the Federalists, led by Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton.

John Adams, Washington's Vice President, beat Jefferson, which made Adams President and Jefferson VP. Adams also had no party, but he won the election mainly due to the Federalists.

In 1800 Jefferson beat Adams, and became the third President. Aaron Burr of New York was his VP. His Secretary of State was fellow Virginian James Madison. Madison did the grass-roots groundwork to get Jefferson elected, and Hamilton accused them of forming the first real party. Jefferson believed in the republic, so they called themselves Republicans.

In 1804 Jefferson was re-elected. His new VP was George Clinton.

In 1808 James Madison was elected President, and re-elected in 1812.

In 1816 James Monroe was elected, and again in 1820.

In 1824 John Quincy Adams was elected President. He had been a Federalist, but switched loyalties. Federalists didn't like him much because of that, but my main point here is that they thought him a welcome relief after six terms and twenty years of what they called the "Virginia Dynasty" (eight terms and twenty-eight years if you count Washington).

So again it's all in the eye of the beholder.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

I dealt with the "content of the essay", twice.

Damn - I knew I missed something.

You of course attempted to radicalize my answers like you always do with anyone who questions your self proclaimed expertise in all things.

Of course! Forgive that I dared to touch your holy grail again! That is very radicalizing indeed...

BTW, what of my self proclaimed expertise was it again that the author used to write his article?

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Damn - I knew I missed something.

Of course! Forgive that I dared to touch your holy grail again! That is very radicalizing indeed...

BTW, what of my self proclaimed expertise was it again that the author used to write his article?

The question really should be when are you NOT proclaiming your expertise on just about any subject Skybird? Germany must be such a wonderful place! I mean even their warehouse workers see things so much more clearly than heads of state, generals and the best scientific minds on the planet! If you guys decide to try to take over the world the rest of us are doomed!

Oh wait...

[Skybird]

Poor August - sees a Skybird underneath his bed, around every corner, and in the trees he walks under (just waiting to jump right onto poor August's back).

Uh, and thank you so much for once again minimizing myself to "just" being a warehouse worker, ignoring all the other things i have done, too, and ignoring my voluntary jobs again. It is always a pleasure to see you using tricks like this. But you see, I have bad news for you - this autumn I'll quit in the warehouse, and this late Spring I will start (again) as "freelance" psychologist and therapist in the outbound service of a nearby hospital, doing once again voluntary work that I can afford to do unpayed, because several people wholeheartly asked me to start doing it again, which I take as a compliment. Then I will be an (unpayed) voluntary specialist (again), and no warehouse part-time-jobber anymore, and I will be that becasue I can afford it and want to do some social service again - say, what will you try to use for making mockery of me, then? Or are you just envy that I have collected experience in more different fields of work and areas of life, than you yourself, maybe, and that I have come around in the world a bit? :hmm:

[Iceman]

Hey wow...come back to topic gents.

My daughter and I got a kick when they asked McCain's mom about what she thought the Republican conservatives will have to do about they're choices....lmao.

She is right ...they will have no choice to suck it up and accept him.

McCain will be president mark these words.

It is like chess...look down the road and see the choices...the outcome is already a done deal.

There is no other good choice and McCain is not just a default choice but will make a hell of a president.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Iceman

McCain, trying to bite open the iron curtain.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Poor August - sees a Skybird underneath his bed, around every corner, and in the trees he walks under (just waiting to jump right onto poor August's back).

Uh, and thank you so much for once again minimizing myself to "just" being a warehouse worker, ignoring all the other things i have done, too, and ignoring my voluntary jobs again. It is always a pleasure to see you using tricks like this. But you see, I have bad news for you - this autumn I'll quit in the warehouse, and this late Spring I will start (again) as "freelance" psychologist and therapist in the outbound service of a nearby hospital, doing once again voluntary work that I can afford to do unpayed, because several people wholeheartly asked me to start doing it again, which I take as a compliment. Then I will be an (unpayed) voluntary specialist (again), and no warehouse part-time-jobber anymore, and I will be that becasue I can afford it and want to do some social service again - say, what will you try to use for making mockery of me, then?

Good for you Skybird!

Or are you just envy that I have collected experience in more different fields of work and areas of life, than you yourself, maybe, and that I have come around in the world a bit? :hmm:

Hmm, envy? Lets compare backrounds. I've been a professional soldier, tradesman in the high tech field and am now a professional teacher. I also do some tree farming on the side and eventually plan to run a bed and breakfast for hunters and fishermen when i retire from teaching. I've lived in two countries and visited over a dozen more around the world from the far east to Europe. I'm not saying your experiences are any less valid or extensive than mine but envy is not a word i'd use to describe such a comparison.

[August]

Originally Posted by Iceman

There is no other good choice and McCain is not just a default choice but will make a hell of a president.

I do worry about his temper but I think he'd make a better president than Obama and definitely Clinton. McCain can beat Clinton too though i'm not so sure about Obama.

[Lurchi]

Originally Posted by Iceman

There is no other good choice and McCain is not just a default choice but will make a hell of a president.

Is he the same McCain who mixed up Russia's Putin with our glorious chancellor Merkel?

If yes, then then i am starting to understand what "hell of a president" really means ...

[August]

Originally Posted by Lurchi

Is he the same McCain who mixed up Russia's Putin with our glorious chancellor Merkel?

Ya gotta admit they do look the same...

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

Good for you Skybird!

Oh please - you are not in a position to judge my life and it's whys and hows - not when I am working in a warehouse, and not when working as a specialist, not when working in the ME, not when working as a martail arts trainer, or a meditation teacher, and not when working in a logistics enterprise, or as schoolboy distributing newspaper - and not when not working at all. Never forget that my life is like it is not becasue of mistakes and error, but because of my intentional decisions which to make I could afford. I could even not work anything at all, if I would wish that. That is more freedom and independence than I see in the lives of most people today. And that is why I give back, and have given back in the past, for free.

So, you must not tell me what is good for me - according to your set of rules for life.

So the question remains - what will you use in the near future to make mockery about my background, then, once I am not jobbing in a warehouse anymore? It has become a habit of yours to do like that.

Think about it in silence, please - I cannot say that I'm really interested in it. Having to face such a strike when it comes, already is annoying enough.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Lurchi

Is he the same McCain who mixed up Russia's Putin with our glorious chancellor Merkel?

Really happened...? Totally missed the story over here.