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Old 01-26-08, 11:53 AM   #31
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That is not true. The balance of the two superpowers kept a lot of that multinational gobbling in check. after that was gone, the number of local conflicts went up, and steeply. Local nationalism went up as well. The Balkans went into hot mode. The southern republics of the USSR. Former allies of the US or the USSR in africa set sail for claiming more powers: more tribe and civil wars. Islam'S multiple local drives against Christian ethnic groups, sometimes going on since years now. Funding for factions that once were partners of the rivalling superpowers also went up, causing wanted additional internal tensions to create weak spots were western, russian and chinese interests could lock on. Local powers like India, China and Brazil also were suddenly free to dramatically improve their power basis. Stupid pöoltical acts and global strtaegies additionally helped to fuel extremism and terrorism, and making new enemies - today we have more terror-willing people and orgnaizations and terroirst in the world, than years ago. Proliferation has become far more threatening a chance, and less controllable. the number of local wars and conflicts went up, so did the number of terrorist acts and conflicts. nationalism is on the rise on all continents, as is religious fundamentalism.

Head on for the past - that's how it looks for me.

The shortening of fruitful land and spreading of desertification, the shortening of sweet water, energy and food will do their share to detoriate things even more. Not in the far away future - it already is happening right now. One just need to look close enough.

Now people can accuse me of being pessimistic again, if they wish. But that is the status quo: unmasked, and not nice-talked. Pessimism has nothing to do with it.
In other words we are all doomed. Doomed I say!

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Old 01-26-08, 11:56 AM   #32
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That is not true.
Well here is a list of conflicts and wars around the world by year since 1800. It shows no appreciable increase in the number from 1989 compared to before that. They are, as i have said, just more widely known nowadays.

http://www.onwar.com/aced/chrono/index.htm
Forgive me but I don't think that link shows even remotely the whole picture.
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Old 01-26-08, 11:58 AM   #33
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Forgive me but I don't think that link shows even remotely the whole picture.
Forgive me but I think it does.
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Old 01-26-08, 01:45 PM   #34
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Not only is this a flase statement, it is misleading. There is plenty of evidence to suggest they did exist, and even moved by both the Syrians and Russians! However, simply saying they were not found is not justification to say they weren't there.
I agree with this. Weren't there reports of troops finding buried fighter aircraft in the desert?
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Old 01-26-08, 02:10 PM   #35
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Not only is this a flase statement, it is misleading. There is plenty of evidence to suggest they did exist, and even moved by both the Syrians and Russians! However, simply saying they were not found is not justification to say they weren't there.
I agree with this. Weren't there reports of troops finding buried fighter aircraft in the desert?
Buried fighter aircraft with nuclear bombs attached?

Don't think so.

If there was any hard evidence that Iraq had viable WMDs at the time of the Iraq War Bush and his government would be screaming it from the roof tops (probably the Whitehouse roof top ).

But there is no evidence and no screaming.
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Old 01-26-08, 02:26 PM   #36
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Forgive me but I don't think that link shows even remotely the whole picture.
Forgive me but I think it does.
And I don't, so agreeing with Konovalov I do.
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Old 01-26-08, 02:28 PM   #37
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In other words we are all doomed. Doomed I say!
If we are doomed, than not so much becasue of things happening, but because having rejected to react to them while there still was time left. We know what needs to be known, all the needed insight and knowledge is there.

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