Really Final Pre-Release Pitch Test Poll (OK, so I lied before :)

panthercules · 01-25-08, 05:54 PM

OK - I know I said the last poll was the final one, but as some posters pointed out I forgot to mention last time (at the beginning anyway) that the wind/sea state in all the videos was exactly the same, and that these represent the maximum heavy weather conditions present in the game (15 m/s, or about 30 knot winds - sub sailing into the wind at ahead standard), and this information apparently would have influenced some folks' votes if they'd known it. Given the relative closeness of the votes in the previous poll, I was thinking it might be better to get a more informed view.

All three takes/videos below are the same as they were in the previous "final" poll, so if you remember how you voted and don't think knowing the info above would have changed your vote, then you don't have to view them again if you don't want to. I couldn't figure out how to blank out the poll results and let people vote again in the other thread, so I'm resorting to this approach to give people a chance to vote again based on "full disclosure" of the wind/sea state info as mentioned above.

Remember, please pick TWO CHOICES in the poll - first, which of the 3 did you like the boat movement best in, and second, which of the 3 did you like the way the water looked best in.

"Take 1" video is here:

"Take 2" video is here:

"Take 3" video is here:

Thanks for the help

(and this really is the last one before the release this weekend)

Will-Rommel · 01-25-08, 06:19 PM

Well, this is the worst environmental conditions we can run across in the game, so it have to be rough!

Voting 3 for both!

jdkbph · 01-25-08, 06:38 PM

2 for both... hands down. Again, the boat's rolling motion in 3 is way too rapid, and the ocean in 3 looks more like a bad day on the bay than the deep ocean rollers you should see way out there. 1 is a bit too tame on both fronts. 2 seems to be pretty much in the Goldilocks zone.

DeepIron · 01-25-08, 07:06 PM

2 on both counts...

Soviet_Warlord · 01-25-08, 08:47 PM

Yeah, I love the roll in #2. It seems perfect. Not too little, not too much.

Weather-guesser · 01-25-08, 10:31 PM

Still two baby!

Savvy · 01-26-08, 04:37 AM

Number 2, NO, 3....2......3....Yeah, number 2.....and 3..........23

602Sqn_Puff · 01-26-08, 07:39 AM

2 for me on both counts mate

Skipbo · 01-26-08, 10:04 AM

I'm getting anxious to install this mod - very nice!

I voted 2/2, but would also be quite happy with Boat=2 and Water=3 which apparently is the case with a lot of other Skippers from the voting as it stands right now.

I'm not familiar with the modding technique, but is there sufficient granularity in the settings to have a water setting BETWEEN your current "take 2" and "take 3" test levels? Just a thought since the voting is very close so far.

Thank you for your excellent work...........Jim

Gunfighter · 01-26-08, 10:39 AM

2 Both Counts Looks great

Ivan Putski · 01-26-08, 11:29 AM

2 on both counts.

panthercules · 01-26-08, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skipbo

I'm not familiar with the modding technique, but is there sufficient granularity in the settings to have a water setting BETWEEN your current "take 2" and "take 3" test levels? Just a thought since the voting is very close so far.

Thank you for your excellent work...........Jim

Actually, that's about where this is probably going to wind up. The water and the boat adjustments aren't really independent of each other, so I haven't found a way (and I don't think there is one) to simply marry boat #2 and water #3 as such. However, the differences are pretty subtle at this point and I think we're going to get a pretty good mix of both boat and water somewhere between 2 and 3, with slightly reduced roll to boot.

Just got to do some final testing on the pitch factors, as well as on a few "bonus" battery life and speed fixes that involve these same files, and unless something weird pops up or RL intervenes unexpectedly this should be ready to release some time tomorrow.

Thanks for all the help folks

von Kinderei · 01-26-08, 11:55 AM

Take 2 absolutely ...

Skipbo · 01-26-08, 12:20 PM

Outstanding! I'll be checking in tomorrow evening then. Thanks!

Sailor Steve · 01-27-08, 01:10 PM

Since these are the absolute maximum possible conditions in the game, I voted 3 and 3 again; but I would like to see what it looks like with Boat 2 and Water 3.

View Poll Results: Please read 1st post below and then pick TWO choices below.
I liked the boat best in Take 1	2	3.70%
I liked the boat best in Take 2	35	64.81%
I liked the boat best in Take 3	16	29.63%
I liked the water best in Take 1	3	5.56%
I liked the water best in Take 2	17	31.48%
I liked the water best in Take 3	32	59.26%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

01-25-08, 05:54 PM	#1
panthercules The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,336 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Really Final Pre-Release Pitch Test Poll (OK, so I lied before :) OK - I know I said the last poll was the final one, but as some posters pointed out I forgot to mention last time (at the beginning anyway) that the wind/sea state in all the videos was exactly the same, and that these represent the maximum heavy weather conditions present in the game (15 m/s, or about 30 knot winds - sub sailing into the wind at ahead standard), and this information apparently would have influenced some folks' votes if they'd known it. Given the relative closeness of the votes in the previous poll, I was thinking it might be better to get a more informed view. All three takes/videos below are the same as they were in the previous "final" poll, so if you remember how you voted and don't think knowing the info above would have changed your vote, then you don't have to view them again if you don't want to. I couldn't figure out how to blank out the poll results and let people vote again in the other thread, so I'm resorting to this approach to give people a chance to vote again based on "full disclosure" of the wind/sea state info as mentioned above. Remember, please pick TWO CHOICES in the poll - first, which of the 3 did you like the boat movement best in, and second, which of the 3 did you like the way the water looked best in. "Take 1" video is here: "Take 2" video is here: "Take 3" video is here: Thanks for the help (and this really is the last one before the release this weekend) __________________

01-25-08, 07:06 PM	#4
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	2 on both counts... __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

01-25-08, 08:47 PM	#5
Soviet_Warlord XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 416 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I love the roll in #2. It seems perfect. Not too little, not too much. __________________

01-25-08, 10:31 PM	#6
Weather-guesser Lieutenant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albany, New York USA Posts: 260 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	Still two baby! __________________ NAVY! It's not just a job. It's a Buck Seventy-Five an hour!

01-25-08, 06:19 PM	#2
Will-Rommel Chief Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 320 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Well, this is the worst environmental conditions we can run across in the game, so it have to be rough! Voting 3 for both! __________________ -Fighting is a lifestyle-

01-25-08, 06:38 PM	#3
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	2 for both... hands down. Again, the boat's rolling motion in 3 is way too rapid, and the ocean in 3 looks more like a bad day on the bay than the deep ocean rollers you should see way out there. 1 is a bit too tame on both fronts. 2 seems to be pretty much in the Goldilocks zone.

01-26-08, 04:37 AM	#7
Savvy Loader Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 89 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Number 2, NO, 3....2......3....Yeah, number 2.....and 3..........23

01-26-08, 07:39 AM	#8
602Sqn_Puff Ensign Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Saltcoats, Ayrshire, Scotland Posts: 233 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	2 for me on both counts mate

01-26-08, 10:04 AM	#9
Skipbo Sailor man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 46 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I'm getting anxious to install this mod - very nice! I voted 2/2, but would also be quite happy with Boat=2 and Water=3 which apparently is the case with a lot of other Skippers from the voting as it stands right now. I'm not familiar with the modding technique, but is there sufficient granularity in the settings to have a water setting BETWEEN your current "take 2" and "take 3" test levels? Just a thought since the voting is very close so far. Thank you for your excellent work...........Jim __________________

01-26-08, 10:39 AM	#10
Gunfighter Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne UK Posts: 720 Downloads: 133 Uploads: 0	Pitch Roll 2 Both Counts Looks great __________________

01-26-08, 11:29 AM	#11
Ivan Putski Captain Join Date: May 2005 Location: Memphis, Tn. U.S.A. Posts: 548 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	2 on both counts. __________________ " Is He?..........Yeah..........Nothing Moving, But His Watch."

01-26-08, 11:55 AM	#13
von Kinderei Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,606 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 0	Take 2 absolutely ... __________________ vK

01-26-08, 12:20 PM	#14
Skipbo Sailor man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 46 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Outstanding! I'll be checking in tomorrow evening then. Thanks! __________________

01-27-08, 01:10 PM	#15
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Since these are the absolute maximum possible conditions in the game, I voted 3 and 3 again; but I would like to see what it looks like with Boat 2 and Water 3. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo