Lifeboats

Sniper_Fox · 01-16-08, 11:16 AM

ubisoft said no to these cause they thought it was morally incorrect... i say the fact that they siad no is morally incorrect... better there be survivors then none at all! someone make lifeboats!

melnibonian · 01-16-08, 01:19 PM

They do exist http://hem.bredband.net/serbut/

panzer 49th · 01-16-08, 01:33 PM

Does anybody have these files and if so can you upload them on filefront? I cant download from his site.

STEED · 01-16-08, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by melnibonian

They do exist http://hem.bredband.net/serbut/

Is it OK with GWX 2.0?

melnibonian · 01-16-08, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Is it OK with GWX 2.0?

To tell you the truth I have no idea. I've never used this mod. I have the feeling though that it's changing Cfgs and dat files and therefore there is a potential for breaking stuff in GWX. I think the best person to ask is the mod's developer.

AVGWarhawk · 01-16-08, 03:30 PM

If players really want life boats the modders should check to see how they work in SH4. Being the game files are so close in comparison getting the life boats to appear just might work. :hmm:

ref · 01-16-08, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

If players really want life boats the modders should check to see how they work in SH4. Being the game files are so close in comparison getting the life boats to appear just might work. :hmm:

Not quite, although the data file structure is very similar, there are tons of controllers in the exe files of sh4 that aren't in sh3, for example the air tprpedo controller, or the unified render controller.

Ref

AVGWarhawk · 01-16-08, 03:41 PM

You would certainly know more than I.....hands down! Just a thought.

Sniper_Fox · 01-16-08, 10:09 PM

so how do these lifeboats work? when you torp a boat do you see the crew scamper across the boat jumping into the water onto the lifeboats?

Von Manteuffel · 01-17-08, 07:12 AM

In SH4, when you torpedo a ship lifeboats and liferafts with crew aboard simply appear around the point where the vessel goes down. You don't see any "action" on board the ship such as manning, or lowering the the boats. They simply appear.

Before the patch(es) they all used to appear as targets on the Nav Map, but no longer ( thank goodness ) and, for the more sadistically inclined amongst us, they can be destroyed by gunfire.

Sniper_Fox · 01-18-08, 05:40 PM

but that doesnt answer about the SH3 mod... is it the same then?

melnibonian · 01-18-08, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

but that doesnt answer about the SH3 mod... is it the same then?

Probably not but I am not sure as I've never used the mod myself. I would suggest you either try it and see for yourself or contact the mod's creator.

Badger Finn · 01-19-08, 05:49 PM

AFAIK been tried didnt work

Something to do with waypoints speeds and how a lifeboat sits in the ocean

Dont think anyone resolved these issues could be wrong

Diving Duck I think had made some photo shop drawings but lost track after that when he was workin on his debris mod...

:hmm:

thefretmaster · 01-20-08, 06:05 PM

quite a few have tried this. i think the main issue was how to actually go about implementing it. someone made some lifeboat units and i made people float up instead of the boxes when a ship goes down.
the best thing so far is racerboy's explosion with crew (part of sh4 fx for sh3). it makes people fly off of the ship as it explodes and then stay in the water for some time.
as far as i know no-one has made fully fledged sh4 style lifeboats
heres my survivors http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ight=survivors
do a search for racerboys work its quite popular
cheers
tfm

01-16-08, 11:16 AM	#1
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Lifeboats ubisoft said no to these cause they thought it was morally incorrect... i say the fact that they siad no is morally incorrect... better there be survivors then none at all! someone make lifeboats! __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-16-08, 01:19 PM	#2
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	They do exist http://hem.bredband.net/serbut/ __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

01-16-08, 01:33 PM	#3
panzer 49th Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 361 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Does anybody have these files and if so can you upload them on filefront? I cant download from his site. __________________

01-16-08, 03:30 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,256 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	If players really want life boats the modders should check to see how they work in SH4. Being the game files are so close in comparison getting the life boats to appear just might work. :hmm: __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-16-08, 03:41 PM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,256 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	You would certainly know more than I.....hands down! Just a thought. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-16-08, 10:09 PM	#9
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	so how do these lifeboats work? when you torp a boat do you see the crew scamper across the boat jumping into the water onto the lifeboats? __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-17-08, 07:12 AM	#10
Von Manteuffel Commander Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 0	In SH4, when you torpedo a ship lifeboats and liferafts with crew aboard simply appear around the point where the vessel goes down. You don't see any "action" on board the ship such as manning, or lowering the the boats. They simply appear. Before the patch(es) they all used to appear as targets on the Nav Map, but no longer ( thank goodness ) and, for the more sadistically inclined amongst us, they can be destroyed by gunfire.

01-18-08, 05:40 PM	#11
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	but that doesnt answer about the SH3 mod... is it the same then? __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-19-08, 05:49 PM	#13
Badger Finn Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 332 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	AFAIK been tried didnt work Something to do with waypoints speeds and how a lifeboat sits in the ocean Dont think anyone resolved these issues could be wrong Diving Duck I think had made some photo shop drawings but lost track after that when he was workin on his debris mod... :hmm:

01-20-08, 06:05 PM	#14
thefretmaster Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: filton england Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	quite a few have tried this. i think the main issue was how to actually go about implementing it. someone made some lifeboat units and i made people float up instead of the boxes when a ship goes down. the best thing so far is racerboy's explosion with crew (part of sh4 fx for sh3). it makes people fly off of the ship as it explodes and then stay in the water for some time. as far as i know no-one has made fully fledged sh4 style lifeboats heres my survivors http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ight=survivors do a search for racerboys work its quite popular cheers tfm __________________ Check out my band www.myspace.com/retrostate