Not going to your patrol grid

[Blacklight]

Do you face any kind of repercusions if you feel that your patrol grid is in a too far away or dumb area and decide to patrol elsewhere ? Just curious.:hmm:

I'm driving a VIIB out of Wilhelmshaven and they pretty much want me to go down to the middle of the ocean west of Africa. Even running underwater most of the time to save fuel, I don't think I'll make it there and back on a full tank and I'm at a point early in the war where there's no milk cows.

[Jonathan]

I do believe that you are hit for negative renown points.

[Blacklight]

BDU Obviously didn't look into my Uboat's fuel capacity before assigning this one. Maybe they're planning on arranging a ship to tow me back once I get there ?

I wish I could call them back and say "Look you idiots !!! I'm driving a VIIB... not one of those "new fangled" IX boats of yours !!!" Wait... Bernard is one of my crew members. Maybe they want to put him in the middle of the ocean where everyone will be safe from him ? Or maybe... Bernard is also working for BDU and is handing out the orders ?

[vodkavera]

If you are running GWX 2,0 I don´t think you get
any renown at all for patroling your grid or negative renown for not doing it.
You just get renown for sinking ships.

/VV

[Fincuan]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Even running underwater most of the time to use the maximum amount of fuel

There, fixed it for you

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

BDU Obviously didn't look into my Uboat's fuel capacity before assigning this one. Maybe they're planning on arranging a ship to tow me back once I get there ?

I wish I could call them back and say "Look you idiots !!! I'm driving a VIIB... not one of those "new fangled" IX boats of yours !!!" Wait... Bernard is one of my crew members. Maybe they want to put him in the middle of the ocean where everyone will be safe from him ? Or maybe... Bernard is also working for BDU and is handing out the orders ?

Your VIIB should be able to do at least 20k km if you use your fuel wisely, and I mean without cheating like going underwater most the time. Just check carefully, what's the optimum speed - you do it by changing current speed (manually) up or down 0.25 knot, waiting a minute and asking your machinist for "maximum range at current speed". Going much too fast or much too slow all the time greatly reduces your range.

For VIIB type the "golden speed" is about 8.25 knts (inf fact it's more "engine effort" than "speed", but that's another topic).

Your patrol grid, as I estimte, is about 8k km far from Wilhelmshaven (going Northern route aroun GB), so you ARE able to get there and patroll it for a day. Also check when the milk cow in Cadiz will be available, it appears ther on February '40 AFAIR, so possibly it's going to be there just when you need it.

And NEVER disobey orders, Herr Kaleun.

[TomcatMVD]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

I wish I could call them back and say "Look you idiots !!! I'm driving a VIIB... not one of those "new fangled" IX boats of yours !!!"

Yeah right... call Doenitz an idiot, that'll make him understand:hmm:
I think your scenario is not that complicated as long as you keep it wise on the fuel efficiency side, and do not mess around too much. Also, if it's quite early on war, you may want to try England's southern side... you will need to dive every so often but that's it.

[danlisa]

There's no penalty for not reaching/patrolling your assigned grid. However, as you are all excellent Kaleuns, you should of course follow your orders.:p

At the moment, GWX 2.0 will award renown for reaching/patrolling your grid. However, GWX 2.1 will remove this reward. Sorry, but it slipped through the net first time round.

[vodkavera]

Originally Posted by danlisa

There's no penalty for not reaching/patrolling your assigned grid. However, as you are all excellent Kaleuns, you should of course follow your orders.:p

At the moment, GWX 2.0 will award renown for reaching/patrolling your grid. However, GWX 2.1 will remove this reward. Sorry, but it slipped through the net first time round.

Oh man! I´ve lost a lot of renown because of that faulty info.......
Sometimes the only renown I get......:rotfl:


/VV

[danlisa]

Meh, I shouldn't worry about it. Call it practice for GWX 2.1.

[3Jane]

Originally Posted by danlisa

There's no penalty for not reaching/patrolling your assigned grid. However, as you are all excellent Kaleuns, you should of course follow your orders.:p

At the moment, GWX 2.0 will award renown for reaching/patrolling your grid. However, GWX 2.1 will remove this reward. Sorry, but it slipped through the net first time round.

If that is the case, I am not sure I will be using 2.1. As I see it, removing the renown from reaching your assigned grid simply turns every patrol into a 'NULL' grid assignement. If there is nothing to be gained or lost why not just head to the best hunting areas. Unless of course the negative renown is still in place for not reaching the grid square. But even so, simply dropping by the assigned square to avoid the negative renown then going on to more lucrative hunting areas, simply forces the player to make a side trip which doesn't really do anything for the game. Unless I am just not seeing the thinking behind it. If still in place, would the possibility of negative renown being awarded be removed after spending the 24 Hrs in the assigned grid.

[danlisa]

There is no negative renown for not going to your grid. The game would award you 400 renown for reaching & patrolling your grid, however it will not take any away. There is also no renown awarded for manually returning to base/port. It was broken in stock SH3.

If you don't like this aspect of GWX 2.1 you are if course welcome to stay with 2.0 but you will miss some fundamental fixes. Of course, adding the renown back in is easy.

Your call.

[STEED]

The whole stinking renown system should be dumped, if possible.

It's a tonnage war not a bloody points war.

[3Jane]

But I just don't understand the thinking behind that decision as regards the imersion, veriety and possibly the character of the simulation as a whole. Reducing it I could understand or putting negative renown in it's place, but as I say with no reason to go to a particular grid area just head for the convoy lanes and bottlenecks.

[Sniper_Fox]

so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!!