Some other tin-foil hat wearers

removed for Subman - none of that negro talk

[baggygreen]

I hope you dont visit that storm front site...

I got no doubt that every IP that visits is monitored by someone...

[DeepIron]

So Wave Skipper, do you have a point or what?

[Torplexed]

You know there was an animated Lord of the Rings film back in the Seventies. I don't remember a bunch of kids leaving the theater screaming Sieg Heil! Jeez. CGI technology and graphics made the current LOTR possible so they rendered the battle scenes to the hilt. Big deal.
They'll be playing up Harry Potter as the ubermensch next. He's white, blue-eyed, all-powerful and misunderstood.

[SUBMAN1]

Wave Skipper, I think you're a political correctness lunatic. Just my opinion. Notice how un-politically correct that statement is!

Let me clue you in on a little secret - You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time.

In this world, someone somewhere will be upset by the way you walk down the street, the way you hold a newspaper, or the way you drive your car. Get used to it.

One more clue, Political Correctness (referred to as PC on this board, and PC is greatly despised here by the way) only makes the problem worse.

-S

PS. I feel so bad for the poor orcs now that just want to take over the world and enslave the population. jk! Sounds to me like the orcs are the Nazi's! Good thing the humans defeated them for the good of all races (ever notice that more than one race is on the human side and they all take care of each other?). Basically, your arguments don't hold salt here.

[Happy Times]

Its no secret Tolkien based his work on Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Nordic, Celtic, Finnic, Baltic legends, sagas, poetry etc....
That doesnt make him a Nazi!
In fact one reason to despise Nazis is that they make it difficult for people of Northern European heritage to be openly proud of it.

Some of the sources that inspired Tolkien. Good read for those that like Tolkien but dont know on what he based his work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings'_sagas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legendary_sagas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetic_Edda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prose_Edda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibelungenlied

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_mythology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_mythology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala

[Blacklight]

It's pretty much the other way around. The material isn't racist nazi propaganda. It's just the nazi idiots who twist the stuff so that it fits into their narrow minded, idiotic, ignorant, little world view (also notice how I refuse to capitalise the word nazi. There's a reason for that.).

There are people out there who can twist ANYTHING into nazi doctrine and unfortunately, too many idiots do.

[Chock]

I think you'll find more evidence pointing to the fact that The Lord of the Rings was far likelier to spawn hippy rock ballads by bands such as Pentangle and Led Zeppelin and be much loved by people who name their children Moonchild, or some other silly crap like that, than have us all donning swastika armbands and leaping into Stukas and Tiger tanks.

Or is Zeppelin's The Battle of Evermore the new Horst-Wessel-Lied?:rotfl:

Chock

Originally Posted by Chock

Or is Zeppelin's The Battle of Evermore the new Horst-Wessel-Lied?:rotfl:

Chock

"I wish I was a Punkrocker" gets changed to "I wish I was a Stormtrooper" :rotfl::rotfl:

[joea]

Boy, I saw some Japanese prints of European (Spanish and Portuguese) traders ... they looked like hairy (probably smelly too as Euros didn't have the same sense of hygiene as Japanese and a different diet) big nosed apes. I will no longer buy sushi and never watch Kurosawa films again.

[TteFAboB]

This is like those interpretations of Star Wars that consider it a battle of socialist Skywalker against the Imperialist Darth Vader. Or when United Religions tells young people SW is about a new religion for a new world order.

[DeepIron]

If a person wants to see Boogey Men, he/she will see Boogey Men...

[August]

The nazis usually wore pants which means by this theory that all pants wearers are closet stormtroopers right?

[Smaragdadler]

The truth is always stranger then fiction - and once upon a time there was a guy who said, that it shall make you free...at least that's what is written...

Adolf Josef Lanz (aka Jörg Lanz), who called himself Lanz von Liebenfels (July 19, 1874 - April 22, 1954) was an Austrian publicist and journalist.
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In 1904, he published his book Theozoologie ("Theozoology") in which he advocated sterilization of the sick and the "lower races" as well as forced labour for "castrated chandals", and glorified the "Aryan race" as "Gottmenschen" ("god-men"). Lanz justified his neognostic racial ideology by attempting to give it a biblical foundation; according to him, Eve, which he described as initially being divine, involved herself with a demon and gave birth to the "lower races" in the process. Furthermore, he claimed that this led to blonde women being attracted primarily to "dark men", something that only could be stopped by "racial demixing" so that the "Aryan-Christian master humans" could "once again rule the dark-skinned beastmen" and ultimately achieve "divinity". A copy of this book was sent to Swedish poet August Strindberg, from whom Lanz received an enthusiastic reply in which he was described as a "prophetic voice".
One year later, in 1905, he founded the magazine "Ostara, Briefbücherei der Blonden und Mannesrechtler", of which he became the sole author and editor in 1908. Lanz himself claimed to have up to 100,000 subscribers, but it is generally agreed on that this figure is grossly exaggerated. Readers of this publication included Adolf Hitler and Dietrich Eckart, among others. Lanz claimed he was once visited by the young Hitler, whom he supplied with two missing issues of the magazine.
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After Hitler's rise to prominence in the 1920s, Lanz tried to be recognized as one of the ideological precursors to Adolf Hitler. In the preface of issue one in the 3. series of Ostara, c. 1927, he wrote for example: "Es sei daran erinnert, daß die 'Hakenkreuz-' und Faschistenbewegungen im Grunde genommen, nur Seitenentwicklungen der Ostara-Ideen sind."[1] (Translation: "One shall remember that the swastika- and fascist movements (he is obviously referring to the Nazi party) basically are just side-developments of the Ostara-ideas.") After Austria had been annexed by Nazi Germany in 1938, Lanz hoped for Hitler's patronage, but Hitler may have felt embarrassed by this early connection. Hence, Lanz was banned from publishing his writings. Most notably copies of Ostara were removed from circulation. After the war, Lanz accused Hitler of having not only stolen but corrupted his idea and also of being of "inferior racial stock". An alternative view is that Hitler was simply embarrassed by Liebenfels himself. There is no strong evidence that Hitler had ever had more than a casual interest in Liebenfels's work, nor with the occult movement as a whole, though the association has been repeatedly made by critics and occultists during and after the Third Reich.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanz_von_Liebenfels

I know that other Liebenfels readers where Lord Kitchener and Lenin...but I don't know about Tolkien.

waving good bye