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Old 01-06-08, 12:05 AM   #1
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Unless you were watching the science news carefully you may have missed a new paradigm shift in scientific circles that may be linked to the massive fascism taking hold on the English sections of the Western World - Canada, England, America, and even Australia. This shift first appeared in a report out of Utah, but rather than being knocked down it has been taken up by the BBC and Scientific America. The report? Let's just say Hitler and Goebbels would have hailed this report had it appeared in their day. Of course the modern scientific community pushing this shift say things like - 'it doesn't mean we should support racism...blah, blah, blah'.

The reports: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=6621

Of course with the recent attacks made on evolution in the USA by Christian groups it is likely many scientists will be tempted to go along with this paradigm shift, but anyone who is savvy in politics and history will quickly see the major shift under way. Actually this shift was started back at the end of the 90s, and includes the modern burning of the twin Reichstags on 9-11, the upsurge in fascist like laws on both sides of the Atlantic, and such movies as Lord of the Rings (now a hit with Neo-Nazis cause all the heroes were blue-eyed and most of the foes were dark skinned - men of the West vs monsters of the East).

Now we add a paradigm shift in genetic science (which most DNA experts still object to) and it finds media traction - and those who support it feel they have to add little disclaimers like: this does not mean racism is valid....and well you may begin to see what's comin up.


FYI Just for your information: "He quotes anthropologist Gregory Cochran as saying, "Not all populations show the same evolutionary speed. For example, Africans show a slightly lower mutation rate" [because they] haven't had to adapt to a fundamentally new climate."

Such reasoning can be found in my 19th century books about why the Aryan races should rule the world in colonialism. Its as old as the "White Man's Burden" and manifest destiny. The words of this scientist can be found almost word for word in such older books.

I smell a sig heil over the horizon....

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Old 01-06-08, 01:31 AM   #2
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Eeeeerrr.....Riiiight
 
Old 01-06-08, 02:53 AM   #3
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Eeeeerrr.....Riiiight
Indeed. I'm really not seeing it here. There's a difference between, black guy never changes, vs, if your environment never changes, why do you need to?
 
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Shall we envoke Godwin's law again?
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The problem is that, on the other hand, its combatants intend to ignore all differences and prohibit their mentioning by declaring any such mention as racism.
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There's nothing racist about this.
There are clearly localised genetic differences alredy and we have no reason to believe that
these are not becoming more acute as they have been for thousands of years.

It only becomes Nazism when you devalue people based on their genetics, but I don't
see evidence of that happening in scientific communities.
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Ahhhh, so Im a neo-nazi cause I love Lord of the Rings.
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Relax guys. The site appears to be one of those 'truth is out there' websites. The author of the article in question claims to have seen a UFO on 7 December: http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/. I'd take anything that follows with a fist-sized grain of salt.
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I'd take anything that follows with a fist-sized grain of salt.
This thread is worth reading for that image alone
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It only becomes Nazism when you devalue people based on their genetics.
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Relax guys. The site appears to be one of those 'truth is out there' websites. The author of the article in question claims to have seen a UFO on 7 December: http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/. I'd take anything that follows with a fist-sized grain of salt.
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I used this site only because it linked in to several media groups carrying this ball. My opinion of you just dropped. Scientific America and the BBC are not exactly UFO media outlets.

As for the rest - I see you are all fodder for the future War On Islam. Back in the late 1990s when I pointed out on other forums that the movie trends of Star Ship Trooper and Saving Private Ryan were classic WWII style propaganda - thus indicating that a major new war cycle was about to take place (because big bucks in Hollywood always follow the upcoming trends big international forces plan - as moives are but one of the old media used by such forces to prep human minds) - I was of course laughed at. And many of those who laughed were no doubt caught up themselves later in the Bush wars - and caught in the endless cycle of never ending rotations back to DER FRONT.

If you truly had paid attention (which most humans do not) to what I said, you would have noted that I did not pass judgment on any of what I was posting about. But most of you assumed that you knew my own subjective bent on this topic. Truth was - you were shocked and a bit offended at my none normal take on this. And to most humans - non-normal means dangerous - a threat. So you imputed and found fault with much of my take or tried hard to ignore it. But years from now perhaps you will not. No doubt the few youngsters who ignored my movie warnings back in the late 90s - who may have been caught up in the new war cycle might reconsider the value of my warning were they to be reminded about it now.

The world of man is a plaything of the powerful. Everything is spin and all is spun. You are all pawns on a board. Your sense of freedoms and rights are mere illusion. This is nothing new. It is how Persia was ruled and how Rome maintained itself. This is why you were disturbed when I clanked a tin cup on the invisible bars that surround you.

THE POINT IS - the Establishment has discovered nothing new in genetic science concerning the so-called races. Just as recently as the early 90s the constant drum beat was Africans showed the greatest amount of genetic change. Whites showed a lesser degree of change and Asians showed the very least. Now this report pops out from a Utah scientist and in 40 days is taken up by the BBC and Scientific American and other sources too. I first read this article in a non-UFO news media format. I actually quoted from this unknown country source because it shows how far down the scientific food chain this story is going. Soon it will stare you in the face from many sources and soon most of you will be quoting it as if it was an old fact you always knew.

The point is this scientific take is an exact FLIP from the previous line for now Africans are said to have changed less genetically, whilst just a decade ago they were said to have changed the most! (AM I saying this was bad or this was good? No - I am talking only about the coming Establishment FLIP.) Had new data been discovered that would cause this flip? NOT AT ALL - and in fact most scientists 99.999% still follow the old track and they would not agree with most of you on this forum thus far. But then you guys are not scientists, are you.

But I am not saying I disagree with most of your comments - YOU ALL MISSED MY POINTS - that powerful forces form your thinking at all times - they guide it and flip it and dance it - sometimes into housing crashes, and at other times onto battle fields covered with concentrina wire, where your lifeless bodies hang and dangle in the wind like the puppets you always were. You ingore all the great men and leaders who constantly warned those around them that nothing happens by accident in the political realm.

The new fascism is already here - only the blind can not see or taste it. I was merely pointing out that the new Big Sig Heil is around the corner. The great nations are swung back and forth like a great battering-ram. And with such pendulum forces (first LEFT and then RIGHT) the bulwarks of old human culture and traditions are battered down to make way for the future.

Am I even attacking this process???? No, like a scientist I see the universe as neither good or bad - IT JUST IS.
 
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[quote=Wave Skipper]I used this site only because it linked in to several media groups carrying this ball. My opinion of you just dropped. Scientific America and the BBC are not exactly UFO media outlets.

As for the rest - I see you are all fodder for the future War On Islam (but not because of your genetic beliefs). Back in the late 1990s when I pointed out on other forums that the movie trends of Star Ship Trooper and Saving Private Ryan were classic WWII style propaganda - thus indicating that a major new war cycle was about to take place (because big bucks in Hollywood always follow the upcoming trends big international forces plan - as moives are but one of the old media used by such forces to prep human minds) - I was of course laughed at. And many of those who laughed were no doubt caught up themselves later in the Bush wars - and caught in the endless cycle of never ending rotations back to DER FRONT.

If you truly had paid attention (which most humans do not) to what I said, you would have noted that I did not pass judgment on any of what I was posting about. But most of you assumed that you knew my own subjective bent on this topic. Truth was - you were shocked and a bit offended at my none normal take on this. And to most humans - non-normal means dangerous - a threat. So you imputed and found fault with much of my take or tried hard to ignore it. But years from now perhaps you will not. No doubt the few youngsters who ignored my movie warnings back in the late 90s - who may have been caught up in the new war cycle might reconsider the value of my warning were they to be reminded about it now.

The world of man is a plaything of the powerful. Everything is spin and all is spun. You are all pawns on a board. Your sense of freedoms and rights are mere illusion. This is nothing new. It is how Persia was ruled and how Rome maintained itself. This is why you were disturbed when I clanked a tin cup on the invisible bars that surround you.

THE POINT IS - the Establishment has discovered nothing new in genetic science concerning the so-called races. Just as recently as the early 90s the constant drum beat was Africans showed the greatest amount of genetic change. Whites showed a lesser degree of change and Asians showed the very least. Now this report pops out from a Utah scientist and in 40 days is taken up by the BBC and Scientific American and other sources too. I first read this article in a non-UFO news media format. I actually quoted from this unknown country source because it shows how far down the scientific food chain this story is going. Soon it will stare you in the face from many sources and soon most of you will be quoting it as if it was an old fact you always knew.

The point is this scientific take is an exact FLIP from the previous line for now Africans are said to have changed less genetically, whilst just a decade ago they were said to have changed the most! (AM I saying this was bad or this was good? No - I am talking only about the coming Establishment FLIP.) Had new data been discovered that would cause this flip? NOT AT ALL - and in fact most scientists 99.999% still follow the old track and they would not agree with most of you on this forum thus far. But then you guys are not scientists, are you.

But I am not saying I disagree with most of your comments - YOU ALL MISSED MY POINTS - that powerful forces form your thinking at all times - they guide it and flip it and dance it - sometimes into housing crashes, and at other times onto battle fields covered with concertina wire, where your lifeless bodies hang and dangle in the wind like the puppets you always were. You ingore all the great men and leaders who constantly warned those around them that nothing happens by accident in the political realm.

The new fascism is already here - only the blind can not see or taste it. I was merely pointing out that the new Big Sig Heil is around the corner. The great nations are swung back and forth like a great battering-ram. And with such pendulum forces (first LEFT and then RIGHT) the bulwarks of old human culture and traditions are battered down to make way for the future.

Am I even attacking this process???? No, like a scientist I see the universe as neither good or bad - IT JUST IS.
 
Old 01-06-08, 11:18 AM   #13
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Thank you for enlightening us! So, Tolkien was preparing for the new War on Terror back in the 40s? ...maybe it was Peter Jackson I mean "King Kong" is clearly "ubermensch."

Ok enough of that...the bit about us being fodder is pretty arrogant buddy or have you forgotten about how many people here were sceptical about the war in Iraq?

Main point is you impute far too much foresight and control to the so-called "powers that be" (who are divided, fallible and human as any of us). Do you really believe they commission Hollywood and the scientific community to prepare public opinion at least as blatantly as you seem to think?
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The world of man is a plaything of the powerful. Everything is spin and all is spun. You are all pawns on a board. Your sense of freedoms and rights are mere illusion. This is nothing new. It is how Persia was ruled and how Rome maintained itself. This is why you were disturbed when I clanked a tin cup on the invisible bars that surround you.
Reminds me of
http://video.google.de/videoplay?doc...arch&plindex=1
and
http://video.google.de/videoplay?doc...85184878490822
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