If there is an SH5

[pythos]

Many people have posited that if there is a next installment of the series it should be the cold war. To my knowledge those boats did little but lurk about in the dephts spooking everyone.

Nah.

I say we return to the German U-boat...in 1914.

I have played shells of fury, and would very much like the u-boats of this period of time get the treatment that UBI gave The WWII U-boats, and American submarines.

More like SH3 though, with interactive crew, and more rooms, along with water spray that makes noise:-), Propper departure and arrival with waving crowds and so on.

It would probably be a much simpler game to make seeing as the only detection methods were eyes. No sonar until later in the war. No TDC, and very dumb torpedoes. Primative boats, and just about as primative surface vessles.

For those that didn't like simulating a soldier of the sea serving a ruthless and genocidal political party led by a madman, The WWI boats served your average everyday "king" who just wanted to take land. Also, the prize rules would make the game interesting. such as a U-boat spotting a target, surfacing, pointing it's gun at the ship, and ordering those aboard off before blowing it out of the water.

Plus the boats would be risky in themselves.

What do memebers here think of proposing this idea to the Devs?

[Rockin Robbins]

It's taking a big chance that people will not be interested in learning about something they know nothing about. We see some resistance to SH4 because the American sub program was shrouded in secrecy and therefore is less known to Europeans than the German U-Boat program. What captures people's imaginations sells. In order to capture their imagination there must be compelling reasons for curiosity about the simulation, based on some prior knowledge. Do people know enough about WWI U-boats to have that compelling curiosity? I do, but I'm plenty strange. Still I think there are rewards if Ubi is willing to take that chance.

I would welcome a WWI simulation of the quality of the SH series. I would be much less interested in WWIII lurking and gathering information, punctuated by "exciting" telephone cable splicing. It would take a lot of effort and cheap prices to entice me to bite on that one. I would buy the WWI simulation without any prompting at all.

[AVGWarhawk]

Me too, RR!

[SteamWake]

Ah man ! That telephone cable splicing would do it for me !

[aurora-7]

I'd like a WWI sub sim, too, along with a new WWI aircombat sim that would be at least the same caliber as Red Baron 3D. I haven't been able to fly an S.E.5 in years.

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

Ah, a man after me old heart. A WWI combat flight sim is what I'm looking for and a good quality one with great gameplay and graphics. I'd like to play a WWI sub sim also. Although I'd rather play those gunboats disguised as merchants. Imagine the look on a German captain's face when the sides of the boat comes down to reveal a plethora of guns aiming at you.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker

A WWI combat flight sim is what I'm looking for and a good quality one with great gameplay and graphics.

Quite a few people have said good things about the Over Flanders Fields mod for CFS3.

I agree, a WWI version of SH3/4 would be fantastic. But I also agree: how many would they actually sell.

[FIREWALL]

Hi pythos and the rest of the gang.

I posted on a simular thread awhile ago but will put my 2 cents here too.

IMHO SH-3 is done. Maybe a future no cd patch like SH4.

Reason I think UBI looked GWX 2.0 over and figured that crew took it legaly and ethicaly as far as it can go and why spend anymore money on it.

Now you get to SH4. Future addon to the Atlantic.
If it sells well then maybe addons are the way to go for awhile for a niche game.

In the past before SH4 alot of posts of "I wish they had a combined SH-3 and Destroyer Command".

LOW and BEHOLD... SH4 has a feature online to command a DESTROYER and Convoy. I wonder why.

It makes me think that maybe their watching how many go online " a way to keep count" and possibly make a Task Force addon.

I even have a title for it. SH TASK FORCE HUNTER KILLER

Object : Hunt for Subs useing the technology of the time.

If they don't go that way I wish they would.

For you WWI BUFFS take a look at Shells of Fury Neal in his Best 10 of 2007 gave it a .

OT for our flight sim member try MS X and Flanders Field mod for WWI .
Watch out for The Red Baron

There USED to be a site called www.deepangel.com (dead now), about supersonic subs, future battle, etc. Wasn't sure if it was supposed to be a CGI movie, game, or both (I assumed both). Thing used super-cavitation to go at blazing speeds under the sea, burn hydrogen taken from seawater.

Personally, I'd like to see something in the future where the outcome is not known (we all know who won WW I and WW II, the only mission is to survive until the end of the war).

Not talking about 688 attack sub, trying to keep the peace, but a real battle where you shoot, they shoot, everyone has a chance to visit Davy Jone's locker (and clean out his old socks out of said locker - they've been there way too long!).

The problem I've always had with modern subs is that it's too 'easy' - not like the subs of yester-year where they were at a major disadvantage to the much faster destroyers. The modern-day type of sub-sims just gave a few missions, try to keep WW III from starting up, etc. I've always wanted to see what those babies could do in a real shooting match. Perhaps against Dr Evil?

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

Davey Jone's Locker

Someone called?

[Ducimus]

I have an alternate idea for a Sh5. Personnally, i think it should depart from historical events while maintaining some semblance of historical technical detail, and take place in a Post ww2, pre nuke boat, fictious cold war scenario.

My reasons are many:

- WW1 might not have enough cool toys to play with like homing torpedos, radar, or RWR.

- The whole WW2 axis vs allies thing is overdone. Some folks are die hard atlantic, others die hard pacific, i think its time to step away from both theaters.

- Cold war scenario has never been done as far as i know.

- Nuclear boats are boring. Diesal boats have lot more gameplay with them.

- The post WW2 era had some of the greatest advances in diesal boat technology, which could be fun to play with.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I have an alternate idea for a Sh5. Personnally, i think it should depart from historical events while maintaining some semblance of historical technical detail, and take place in a Post ww2, pre nuke boat, fictious cold war scenario.

My reasons are many:

- WW1 might not have enough cool toys to play with like homing torpedos, radar, or RWR.

- The whole WW2 axis vs allies thing is overdone. Some folks are die hard atlantic, others die hard pacific, i think its time to step away from both theaters.

- Cold war scenario has never been done as far as i know.

- Nuclear boats are boring. Diesal boats have lot more gameplay with them.

- The post WW2 era had some of the greatest advances in diesal boat technology, which could be fun to play with.

I think Ubisoft may well consider that option as a possibility.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I think Ubisoft may well consider that option as a possibility.

Nice , I agree with Ducimus, nukes would be boring, but pre-nuke subs in the Cold War era could have some nice gaming possibilities.


RDP

[Q3ark]

I think it would be cool to visit the Mediteranian with some of the British boats. There where some desperate battles out there against the Italians and the ever present Germans. The Med is very shallow and the larger T class subs had a very tough time out there. They had a high loss rate, those of you finding the pacific too easy would have much more fun in there i think.

I also agree with Duci. Nuke subs are boring. Tried sub command, still have it somewhere collecting dust. Not my cop of tea at all.

[John Channing]

Actually the average depth of the Med is between 1430 and 1500 meters (depending on who you ask) and the deepest recorded point is 5,267 meters (about 3.27 miles) in the Calypso Deep in the Ionian Sea.

JCC