Diving Planes

JSF · 12-21-07, 03:37 AM

At some point during a patrol the diving planes stop rigging out. Does this happen to anyone else? I use ROW and mention this only in case someone questions which mods are installed.......In reporting this it should be noted that performance does not seem to be affected and is merely a cosmedic "eye candy " situation.

BTW...I searched the forum to see if this was a previous topic but no joy.

LukeFF · 12-21-07, 03:51 AM

Ancient bug from SH3.

tjlegault · 12-21-07, 05:17 AM

I remember a post about that, it said that it comes from saving the while submerged. I had the same problem and since then I dont save my campaign while submerged , I have not had that problem since.
TJL

FooFighters · 12-21-07, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlegault

I remember a post about that, it said that it comes from saving the while submerged. I had the same problem and since then I dont save my campaign while submerged , I have not had that problem since.
TJL

That's correct, the problem occurs during saving while submerged.

Archie · 12-21-07, 07:13 AM

I think it also happens when you dive/ascend while in time compression, so, the lesson is, don't do it!

JSF · 12-21-07, 07:21 AM

hummmmm...thanks!

Capt Jack Harkness · 12-23-07, 05:08 AM

While we're on the subject of the planes, it drives me nuts that when diving (or surfacing) the planes go to dive (or surface) angles and hold them even after you've reached an appropriate dive angle and only recenter when levelling off! In reality they only moved off center when changing the angle of dive or surface...

Is there a way to fix this???

jdkbph · 12-23-07, 12:09 PM

I'm not sure that's true. I think you're assuming the dive angle and bubble angle are exactly the same. The flight analog would be flight path vector and angle of attack.... not necessarily the same in either case.

JD

Capt Jack Harkness · 12-27-07, 04:17 AM

What is the difference between dive angle and bubble angle?

Anyways, my point is that the planes go to down angles to achieve an angle of dive and once you have attained that angle (angle of the boat remains constant) then the planes should return to zero or nearly zero in order to maintain that angle then they go to up angles to level the boat off.
In-game, however, the planes stay at maximum down angles until the boat levels off at desired depth, at which point they zero.

If the planes actually stayed in this position you would be doing loop-de-loops underwater...

John Channing · 12-27-07, 09:00 AM

He's right.

THis was one of the lessons learned when manual dive plane control was added to SH2. People were keeping the planes in the full dive position until they reached the depth they were looking for then returning them to 0 degrees thinking that would level them off.

We got a lotta complaints about that one until people figured it out...

JCC

Sailor Steve · 12-27-07, 11:38 AM

They also did the same thing trying to get to periscope depth quickly for a snap shot. A nice thing for me when I was the destroyer and they broached.

John Channing · 12-27-07, 12:34 PM

Heeheehee...

JCC

12-21-07, 03:37 AM	#1
JSF Engineer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 208 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Diving Planes At some point during a patrol the diving planes stop rigging out. Does this happen to anyone else? I use ROW and mention this only in case someone questions which mods are installed.......In reporting this it should be noted that performance does not seem to be affected and is merely a cosmedic "eye candy " situation. BTW...I searched the forum to see if this was a previous topic but no joy.

12-21-07, 05:17 AM	#3
tjlegault A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 72 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Diving Planes I remember a post about that, it said that it comes from saving the while submerged. I had the same problem and since then I dont save my campaign while submerged , I have not had that problem since. TJL

12-21-07, 07:13 AM	#5
Archie Medic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The South Pacific, No, Really.... The South Pacific Posts: 165 Downloads: 73 Uploads: 0	I think it also happens when you dive/ascend while in time compression, so, the lesson is, don't do it! __________________ __________________ "I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.'" President John F. Kennedy,

12-27-07, 09:00 AM	#10
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	He's right. THis was one of the lessons learned when manual dive plane control was added to SH2. People were keeping the planes in the full dive position until they reached the depth they were looking for then returning them to 0 degrees thinking that would level them off. We got a lotta complaints about that one until people figured it out... JCC Last edited by John Channing; 12-27-07 at 12:35 PM.

12-27-07, 11:38 AM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	They also did the same thing trying to get to periscope depth quickly for a snap shot. A nice thing for me when I was the destroyer and they broached. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-21-07, 03:51 AM	#2
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	Ancient bug from SH3.

12-21-07, 07:21 AM	#6
JSF Engineer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 208 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	hummmmm...thanks!

12-23-07, 05:08 AM	#7
Capt Jack Harkness Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 567 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 1	While we're on the subject of the planes, it drives me nuts that when diving (or surfacing) the planes go to dive (or surface) angles and hold them even after you've reached an appropriate dive angle and only recenter when levelling off! In reality they only moved off center when changing the *angle of dive or surface...* Is there a way to fix this???

12-23-07, 12:09 PM	#8
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure that's true. I think you're assuming the dive angle and bubble angle are exactly the same. The flight analog would be flight path vector and angle of attack.... not necessarily the same in either case. JD

12-27-07, 04:17 AM	#9
Capt Jack Harkness Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 567 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 1	What is the difference between dive angle and bubble angle? Anyways, my point is that the planes go to down angles to achieve an angle of dive and once you have attained that angle (angle of the boat remains constant) then the planes should return to zero or nearly zero in order to maintain that angle then they go to up angles to level the boat off. In-game, however, the planes stay at maximum down angles until the boat levels off at desired depth, at which point they zero. If the planes actually stayed in this position you would be doing loop-de-loops underwater...

12-27-07, 12:34 PM	#12
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	Heeheehee... JCC