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Old 12-16-07, 06:04 PM   #16
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I enjoyed the first movie too, and I welcome the sequel. Trouble is in our day and age EVERYBODY is an armchair critic, well screw that. When you go to see a film and Alien beasts that pull each other to bits, you surely don't expect some sort of drama or a story really?
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Old 12-16-07, 08:54 PM   #17
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When you go to see a film and Alien beasts that pull each other to bits, you surely don't expect some sort of drama or a story really?
Well, true enough, but there are still some rules that it's not a bad idea to follow when making a movie, and the AVP movie seemed to eschew those rules. For example; the Scottish guy was set up to be the 'comic relief' character in the movie preamble, and generally speaking, the comic relief guy is supposed to make it to the end of the movie, so although shocking to see him go, it cut off one of the film's dramatic avenues. Similarly, CB Weyland's character was kind of thrown away early too, they could have done a lot more with him, and Lance Henriksen is a fan of the series, so was up for it. Of course they can make him a robot if they like in future movies, but it did seem a waste to kill him off early in the proceedings. But the killer for me was the attempt to up the pacing by changing the Alien gestation period to oooh, about 2 minutes? something like that. The movie should at least live within its own reality and limitations, I don't think it's too much to expect at least that.

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Well um true enough. But I just read it as the Predators simply found a way to accelerate the gestation period. That seemed to be the suggestions hinted in the comic adaptations. Not only that they are advanced enough to build spaceships and stuff so to make something be born a bit quicker wouldn't be beyond their capabilities.

PErsonally speaking I liked the first AVP I thought it was a good effort at combining the series, and given that it was based off a computer game it was not a bad film at all. There were numerous holes in places, but to be honest if you see AVP for what it is, that being an action based scifi-horror its very enjoyable.

If in terms of just over all top notch quality, of the whole series the best film IMO is Predator with Arnie in it. Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 were all good, Aliens being the best, and the less said about Alien Resurrection the better.

I think AVP:R will be decent if its took for what it is. And I won't let the ramblings of people on some movie message board turn me off to that.

PS. Poor Alien doesn't have a chance against Barney!:rotfl:
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  1. Following this on a film forum, news update so on. Nearly everyone there hates it and state it should never had been made
  2. It's only a film for the brain dead, crap actors crap acting big SFX lots of guns and a really silly crap storyline. Hollywood can churn this BS out and make a fast buck from the brain dead.
  3. The first was BS and that's a fact, it stank.
Could'nt agree more. This movie will be crap, you can see that in the trailers allready out that for some reason the Predators kill humand indiscriminantly, something that goes against their code which makes the upcomginh suckfest even worse.
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Well um true enough. But I just read it as the Predators simply found a way to accelerate the gestation period. That seemed to be the suggestions hinted in the comic adaptations. Not only that they are advanced enough to build spaceships and stuff so to make something be born a bit quicker wouldn't be beyond their capabilities.

PErsonally speaking I liked the first AVP I thought it was a good effort at combining the series, and given that it was based off a computer game it was not a bad film at all. There were numerous holes in places, but to be honest if you see AVP for what it is, that being an action based scifi-horror its very enjoyable.

If in terms of just over all top notch quality, of the whole series the best film IMO is Predator with Arnie in it. Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 were all good, Aliens being the best, and the less said about Alien Resurrection the better.

I think AVP:R will be decent if its took for what it is. And I won't let the ramblings of people on some movie message board turn me off to that.

PS. Poor Alien doesn't have a chance against Barney!:rotfl:

Agreed.
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Old 12-17-07, 10:52 AM   #21
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Could'nt agree more. This movie will be crap, you can see that in the trailers allready out that for some reason the Predators kill humand indiscriminantly, something that goes against their code which makes the upcomginh suckfest even worse.
No, as I understand it, the Predator ship crashes in Colorado, and the predator(s) are sent to clean up the situation, i.e exterminating aliens and witnesses. If someone was allowed to escape or capture Predator technology, humans could study it and it'd make future hunts more difficult.

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Much as I am loathed to use it, but, in Predator 2, he tore through a train on a killing spree. But you later find out, he only killed the passengers who had weapons, yet there were several witnesses to that event who were not killed.
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Old 12-17-07, 12:04 PM   #23
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Also, from the trailer, its not clear whether or not the humans had been facehugged.
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