Weather. Does GWX2 improve it?

marius · 12-13-07, 07:11 AM

Sorry for my ignorance but does the GWX mod improve weather in SH3?

Blacklight · 12-13-07, 02:41 PM

Weather is unfortunately a stock issue. The Weather Mod in the downloads section here can give you SOME control over it but from what I understand, there are minor issues with that as well.

KeptinCranky · 12-13-07, 03:20 PM

Weather.....

It's a shame but Blacklight is right.

I've used the weather mod in 1.03 and although it's not perfect it does force more varied weather, you'll no longer be stuck in a zero visibility storm for weeks on end so it's well worth it.

Hasn't been tested with 2.0 yet though..

Blacklight · 12-13-07, 04:13 PM

Ahhh.. don't you love it when you're stuck in those roller coaster sized waves and sideways rain for a month

? After some of the storms I've been through in this game, I've had times where I expected to return to base only to find no land and just open water covering the continent.

Sigurd · 12-13-07, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight

Ahhh.. don't you love it when you're stuck in those roller coaster sized waves and sideways rain for a month

? After some of the storms I've been through in this game, I've had times where I expected to return to base only to find no land and just open water covering the continent.

I raided Loch Ewe and find that half of the ships in dock capsized and sunk due to the weather, including a hospital ship

I tried downloading the weather mod, but it wouldnt install. I let it search for my install path for about 20 minutes to no success. In other words, I'm stuck with the month long hurricane force winds

Blacklight · 12-13-07, 04:56 PM

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I tried downloading the weather mod, but it wouldnt install. I let it search for my install path for about 20 minutes to no success. In other words, I'm stuck with the month long hurricane force winds

Just keep a look out for a huge wooden ship full of animals and have your torpedoes ready. I hear there's a LOT of tonnage to be had from that sucker !

KeptinCranky · 12-13-07, 05:02 PM

:rotfl: Blacklight...

Slightly off topic but weather related...

why is it that almost every engine powered warship in the Royal Navy since HMS Warrior (wiki that if you have to) up to the end of ww II has an open bridge? I can understand it on something enormous like HMS Hood, you'd rarely get waves big enough to sweep you right off and if you do you're sunk anyway, but on a piddly Flower Corvette, or a minesweeper.

You really don't want to be in one of those nice atlantic storms exposed to the elements if you don't have to, what's the benefit I wonder :hmm: ?

Spin Doctor · 12-13-07, 06:18 PM

check this thread. These simple file changes will make your weather more varied and realistic feeling. I've tried it and it seems to work very well with no ill efects to the rest of your installation. Just back up the files somewhere and if you don't like it, put them back.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...riable+weather

marius · 12-14-07, 01:39 AM

Thanks for the feedback.

Dustyboats · 12-16-07, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KeptinCranky

:rotfl: Blacklight...

Slightly off topic but weather related...

why is it that almost every engine powered warship in the Royal Navy since HMS Warrior (wiki that if you have to) up to the end of ww II has an open bridge? I can understand it on something enormous like HMS Hood, you'd rarely get waves big enough to sweep you right off and if you do you're sunk anyway, but on a piddly Flower Corvette, or a minesweeper.

You really don't want to be in one of those nice atlantic storms exposed to the elements if you don't have to, what's the benefit I wonder :hmm: ?

Hi there Kapiten Cranky...Greetings!
Not being a Naval Architect I cannot give you a true definitive answer. However having served on two "Bird Class Corvettes" (renamed Frigates in my day...H.M.S's Magpie and Sparrow) the open bridge afforded "All Round Vision, 360 degrees, in a few short sharp paces". There is also to consider at that time in history.... "Expense". Apart from Capital ships, the RN was the poor cousin to land and air forces. It was in the begining not to use the Corvette for Convoy Patrol. They were really built for Costal and River service when we had the Empire. You may recall the "Yangtse Incident" in the Far East ? During WWII though, we needed everything to protect our convoys. A great book to read or DVD to watch is "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsaratt. Hope this helps......Dusty.

KeptinCranky · 12-16-07, 07:11 AM

Thought it might be something like that

We had the same thing with our submarines there were two basic classes the O (for Onderzeeboot) for home waters and the K (kolonie) for the colonial waters.

Since the Dutch colonies were all in tropical regions the K classes had better air conditioning and were generally more suited for warmer climates.

Oberon · 12-16-07, 09:14 AM

You served on a corvette Dustyboats? That must have made for some pretty memorable Atlantic storms

The Cruel Sea is a VERY well written novel, I strongly urge anyone who hasn't read it to read it, it's up there with Das Boot and no mistake.

Dustyboats · 12-17-07, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

You served on a corvette Dustyboats? That must have made for some pretty memorable Atlantic storms

The Cruel Sea is a VERY well written novel, I strongly urge anyone who hasn't read it to read it, it's up there with Das Boot and no mistake.

I cannot claim to have faced Atlantic Storms on H.M.S.'s Magpie and Sparrow. We were based on Simonstown in South Africa. We did meet some "Roughers" from time to time and they would pitch and roll on a duck pond the way they were built.....Dusty

Thunder · 12-17-07, 02:21 AM

Hi there, Simonstown is round the corner from me, brilliant. Some of the waves off Cape Point can get quite hairy.

Von Manteuffel · 12-17-07, 07:10 AM

Dustyboats is absolutely spot-on. The Royal Navy favoured open bridges long after other navies had gone under cover for the 360-degree visibility it gave the Captain and watchkeepers. Even in ships with covered bridges, lookouts were stationed in the open air.

Larger RN ships ( e.g. later cruisers ) did have enclosed bridges with high-speed spinning circuar panels built in to the forward looking windscreens. I think they were called "Kent screens". However, they still didn't give as clear a view as the open air and could ice-up in really cold conditions.

The "Cruel Sea" is superb, but, IMHO comes ( a close ) second to Alistair Maclean's masterpiece "HMS Ulysses," which paints the most vivid picture of the Russian convoys.

12-13-07, 07:11 AM	#1
marius Watch Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 29 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Weather. Does GWX2 improve it? Sorry for my ignorance but does the GWX mod improve weather in SH3?

12-13-07, 02:41 PM	#2
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Weather is unfortunately a stock issue. The Weather Mod in the downloads section here can give you SOME control over it but from what I understand, there are minor issues with that as well. __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

12-13-07, 04:13 PM	#4
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Ahhh.. don't you love it when you're stuck in those roller coaster sized waves and sideways rain for a month ? After some of the storms I've been through in this game, I've had times where I expected to return to base only to find no land and just open water covering the continent. __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

12-13-07, 03:20 PM	#3
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Weather..... It's a shame but Blacklight is right. I've used the weather mod in 1.03 and although it's not perfect it does force more varied weather, you'll no longer be stuck in a zero visibility storm for weeks on end so it's well worth it. Hasn't been tested with 2.0 yet though..

12-13-07, 05:02 PM	#7
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	:rotfl: Blacklight... Slightly off topic but weather related... why is it that almost every engine powered warship in the Royal Navy since HMS Warrior (wiki that if you have to) up to the end of ww II has an open bridge? I can understand it on something enormous like HMS Hood, you'd rarely get waves big enough to sweep you right off and if you do you're sunk anyway, but on a piddly Flower Corvette, or a minesweeper. You really don't want to be in one of those nice atlantic storms exposed to the elements if you don't have to, what's the benefit I wonder :hmm: ?

12-13-07, 06:18 PM	#8
Spin Doctor Bosun Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 69 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	check this thread. These simple file changes will make your weather more varied and realistic feeling. I've tried it and it seems to work very well with no ill efects to the rest of your installation. Just back up the files somewhere and if you don't like it, put them back. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...riable+weather

12-14-07, 01:39 AM	#9
marius Watch Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 29 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the feedback.

12-16-07, 07:11 AM	#11
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Thought it might be something like that We had the same thing with our submarines there were two basic classes the O (for Onderzeeboot) for home waters and the K (kolonie) for the colonial waters. Since the Dutch colonies were all in tropical regions the K classes had better air conditioning and were generally more suited for warmer climates.

12-16-07, 09:14 AM	#12
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	You served on a corvette Dustyboats? That must have made for some pretty memorable Atlantic storms The Cruel Sea is a VERY well written novel, I strongly urge anyone who hasn't read it to read it, it's up there with Das Boot and no mistake.

12-17-07, 02:21 AM	#14
Thunder Soundman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: cape Town Posts: 142 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 0	Hi there, Simonstown is round the corner from me, brilliant. Some of the waves off Cape Point can get quite hairy.

12-17-07, 07:10 AM	#15
Von Manteuffel Commander Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 0	Dustyboats is absolutely spot-on. The Royal Navy favoured open bridges long after other navies had gone under cover for the 360-degree visibility it gave the Captain and watchkeepers. Even in ships with covered bridges, lookouts were stationed in the open air. Larger RN ships ( e.g. later cruisers ) did have enclosed bridges with high-speed spinning circuar panels built in to the forward looking windscreens. I think they were called "Kent screens". However, they still didn't give as clear a view as the open air and could ice-up in really cold conditions. The "Cruel Sea" is superb, but, IMHO comes ( a close ) second to Alistair Maclean's masterpiece "HMS Ulysses," which paints the most vivid picture of the Russian convoys.