9 Dead in Omaha Shooting

AG124 · 12-05-07, 06:20 PM

Just read this on the internet; it appears that either 8 or 9 people were gunned down in a mall in Omaha (reports are conflicting on which number it is) - plus 5 more were injured (and the gunmen appears to have shot himself. No word on who is is or why he did it, but some sources are reporting that the police arrested a second suspect who was hiding under a bench at a bus stop dressed in camouflage.

Here's a link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071205/...ll_shooting_20

Chock · 12-05-07, 06:26 PM

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hiding under a bench at a bus stop dressed in camouflage.

Why was a bus stop dressed in camouflage?

Chock

Letum · 12-05-07, 06:26 PM

A tragic, yet unsuprising, incident.

Ducimus · 12-05-07, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

A tragic, if unsuprising, incident.

Saw it on the news in the breakroom as i clocked in. My mental reaction was..

"what? Again?"

Skybird · 12-05-07, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

A tragic, yet unsuprising, incident.

Heared it on TV. Exactly your words were first on my mind (in German, of course).

Reaves · 12-05-07, 07:30 PM

What type of guns? Automatic? Semi?

Just wondering if it could have been avoided by having similar gun restrictions that we have down here.

-gun lover but guns don't kill people, stupid people with guns kill people.

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Keith Fidler, a Von Maur employee, said he heard a burst of five to six shots followed by 15 to 20 more rounds. Fidler said he huddled in the corner of the men's clothing department with about a dozen other employees until police yelled to get out of the store.

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A witness, Shawn Vidlak, said he heard four or five rapid shots "like a nail gun." At first he thought it was noise from construction work going on at the mall.

AVGWarhawk · 12-05-07, 07:36 PM

Not trying to be funny here but why don't these people do something original? For instance, blow there own head off and just leave a note as to why? Is it really necessary to take others with you? Personally I find these individuals chicken sh!t by taking their own life afterwards.

Yahoshua · 12-05-07, 07:40 PM

You actually trust reporters to write down the facts in a news article? It could be a semi-automatic but a reporter will still call it an "Assault Rifle."

There are only 2 known incidents of Fully Automatic Weapons being used in a massacre and BOTH were done by LEOs who lost their minds.

Wait a day or so before we start calling the weapon an "Assault Rifle" or as being "Fully Automatic." Fully Automatic weapons aren't as common here in the states as you might think they are.

AVGWarhawk · 12-05-07, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

You actually trust reporters to write down the facts in a news article? It could be a semi-automatic but a reporter will still call it an "Assault Rifle."

There are only 2 known incidents of Fully Automatic Weapons being used in a massacre and BOTH were done by LEOs who lost their minds.

Wait a day or so before we start calling the weapon an "Assault Rifle" or as being "Fully Automatic." Fully Automatic weapons aren't as common here in the states as you might think they are.

The media likes to embellish. Assault Rifle just sounds great to the news folks.

Skybird · 12-05-07, 08:52 PM

Do these questions really matter? I think not.

I'd even say it is poor taste and lacking respect for the dead and the loss it means for their families to discuss such trivialaties.

Chock · 12-05-07, 08:53 PM

You'll never stop the media writing crap like that, having been a writer for a daily newspaper in the past before I got sick of it, I can assure you that 'journalese' as it is known, is expected of you by editors when you write. So you end up putting all the cliches in, because if you don't it comes back with a note telling you to do so, or gets rewritten by the subs in that way, so there are always 'fleets of ambulances' for example, buses do not fall off cliffs, they 'career uncontrollably and plunge' etc, etc.

It's the nature of the business, and it is a business, they want to sell stories, facts, other than the basic truth, are almost always a secondary concern.

Chock

Ducimus · 12-05-07, 09:20 PM

http://www.jibjab.com/originals/what_we_call_the_news

Reaves · 12-05-07, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

You actually trust reporters to write down the facts in a news article? It could be a semi-automatic but a reporter will still call it an "Assault Rifle."

There are only 2 known incidents of Fully Automatic Weapons being used in a massacre and BOTH were done by LEOs who lost their minds.

Wait a day or so before we start calling the weapon an "Assault Rifle" or as being "Fully Automatic." Fully Automatic weapons aren't as common here in the states as you might think they are.

It's funny because there was no mention in the article about what type of gun it was, hence why I quoted what the witnesses heard.

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Keith Fidler, a Von Maur employee, said he heard a burst of five to six shots followed by 15 to 20 more rounds. Fidler said he huddled in the corner of the men's clothing department with about a dozen other employees until police yelled to get out of the store.

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A witness, Shawn Vidlak, said he heard four or five rapid shots "like a nail gun." At first he thought it was noise from construction work going on at the mall.

I think a semi automatic is overkill for hunting the same as an auto. You don't need it, you just want it. A bolt or lever action is sufficient for civillian use. The thing is they can also kill so if you were going to ban semi's you might as well ban all guns, which I certainly don't agree with.

I don't know the solution but if nothing changes these instances are only going to repeat.

12-05-07, 09:47 PM

Through it all; Clinton remained Calm

RamRod · 12-05-07, 10:11 PM

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I think a semi automatic is overkill for hunting the same as an auto. You don't need it, you just want it. A bolt or lever action is sufficient for civillian use. The thing is they can also kill so if you were going to ban semi's you might as well ban all guns, which I certainly don't agree with.

I don't know the solution but if nothing changes these instances are only going to repeat.

JFK was killed with a bolt action rifle. The type of gun has nothing to do with these nutcases except for one thing: The scrutiny and cost and red tape one has to go through to possess a fully automatic weapon almosts assures the fact that whoever this guy was, he didn't have one.
As for wanting a semi-automatic weapon, this is America. No one cares about what is sufficient. We are free! Especially here in Texas where housewives drive 4-wheel drive F-350 deisels (I drive a Prius) and lives in house with a garage big enough to house the family of 8 illegal aliens needed to keep our 6 acreas of lawn manicured and pristine! An if I want to spend my day off repeating pumping holes into a coke can with my Weatherby 7mm Mag semi-auto... that's my right also. No one has the right to tell me the can is just as dead with a BB gun.

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Not trying to be funny here but why don't these people do something original? For instance, blow there own head off and just leave a note as to why? Is it really necessary to take others with you? Personally I find these individuals chicken sh!t by taking their own life afterwards. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You actually trust reporters to write down the facts in a news article? It could be a semi-automatic but a reporter will still call it an "Assault Rifle." There are only 2 known incidents of Fully Automatic Weapons being used in a massacre and BOTH were done by LEOs who lost their minds. Wait a day or so before we start calling the weapon an "Assault Rifle" or as being "Fully Automatic." Fully Automatic weapons aren't as common here in the states as you might think they are. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,626 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Do these questions really matter? I think not. I'd even say it is poor taste and lacking respect for the dead and the loss it means for their families to discuss such trivialaties. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You'll never stop the media writing crap like that, having been a writer for a daily newspaper in the past before I got sick of it, I can assure you that 'journalese' as it is known, is expected of you by editors when you write. So you end up putting all the cliches in, because if you don't it comes back with a note telling you to do so, or gets rewritten by the subs in that way, so there are always 'fleets of ambulances' for example, buses do not fall off cliffs, they 'career uncontrollably and plunge' etc, etc. It's the nature of the business, and it is a business, they want to sell stories, facts, other than the basic truth, are almost always a secondary concern. Chock __________________

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