the early bird catches.. er, something or other.

jumpy · 11-29-07, 03:09 AM

Whilst enjoying my redundancy/unemployed status for a while now, my 'hours' have varied a great deal. From early to bed and early to rise, to sleep all day and be up all night and then back again, to a combination of the two (currently).

CCIP · 11-29-07, 03:11 AM

You sound just like me (I'm a student and my main job right now is completely off-beat) :p

Letum · 11-29-07, 03:26 AM

Sleep is for the weak.
The wakeful will inherit the earth.

*falls over due to caffine overdose*

CCIP · 11-29-07, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Sleep is for the weak.
The wakeful will inherit the earth.

*falls over due to caffine overdose*

That's me every morning. That is, when I actually have mornings (60% of the days I wake up after noon

)

XabbaRus · 11-29-07, 04:41 AM

7am start every morning deal with the kids, into work by 8:30 fuelled by 2 cups of strong sweet black coffee.....no wonder my CAD drawings have shaky lines in them

jumpy · 11-29-07, 04:41 AM

^^

Skybird · 11-29-07, 06:09 AM

Scientifically, around 15% of the population in Western nations are rated as "owls", and another 15%, roughly, to be "larks" - says sleep researchers. It is a probabaly genetic disposition for going early or going late to bed, and we talk about very huge time shifts here, 5-8 hours. Such people do not sleep more or less than everyone, it also is not a habit, or symptom of a deeper disease. People affected that way never get used to needing to violate their inner clock, it ticks the same way like other's people's, they do not sleep more or less than others, but their phase is totally desynchronized to that of the majority of people.

I once read that they also seem to be more sensitive to moon influence, but that was still under examination back then.

I know what all that means, since I am heavily affected from that "problem" myself, since my earliest childhood days (when I drove my parents crazy). School's first two hours were hell, only teachers knowing me for a longer while left me alone in the first two hours, knwoing that that guy is only physically present before 10 am. Today I raise at 10:30 or 11:00 am, means: i wake up, if I can manage to delay all dates of the day to the afternoon, and go to bed at around 3:30 or 4:00 am. At midnight I gain another mental climax, I do kitchen work 1 am in the morning, and dinner is at 9 pm. Deep in the night I am as awake as most of you are at 11 am. Raising with you for brakefast at 7:30 would feel for me like you being thrown out of the bed at 2:00 am. Interestingly, certain health problems I had in the past, disappeared when I finally gave in to my shifted biorythm and allowed it to have it's way. In the years I gave daily meditations classes from 0900 to 1030, were hell for me, concerning the time - for me it felt like monks in a monastery starting their day at 0400 in the morning. My grandfather, his brother, and their father also were known to dance around until the sun went up (antoher hint for the genetic disposition). My grandfather was teacher. He used to come home from school, ate something, went to sleep, raised in the early evening, and then did the remaining work, did what we do - but late in the night, and then went to work again.

No problem if you have an envrionment where you can have that way. If you are depending on a timetable saying 8 a.m. "job", it is very bad, and messes up your life. Me - one can hardly be any more night-active than I am. Should have been born as a vampyre, maybe.

It is assumed to be a genetical disposition indeed. Usual explanations like ill metabolism, probolems with the tyroid gland, cardiovascular probolems, do not explain those people being identified as owls and larks.

If it is a disease, so far noone has found the cause, and remedy. I tend to think it is just natural fluctuation of a population's characteristic, the two extremes at the upper and lower 15%. Even when staying in the african and ME countries, these things posed problems to me. Glad I am in a position i can avoid needing to violate this differently ticking clock, at least most days. And amongst those being affected, not all are affected as massive as extreme examples like me.

AVGWarhawk · 11-29-07, 12:36 PM

Best kept secret.....you get more done if you get up and out early.

August · 11-29-07, 12:41 PM

The early bird gets the worm but it's the 2nd mouse that gets the cheese.

STEED · 11-29-07, 12:43 PM

And now I shall............................

Think about voting, this could take some time.

fatty · 11-29-07, 12:58 PM

In my first undergrad year I was staying up late and getting up early to handle the worldload. It was painful and I was falling asleep in lecture all the time. Now I've just adapted to it and usually only need 5-6 hours of sleep to be fully functional. I pick up the rest on the weekend.

Kapitan · 11-29-07, 02:28 PM

Me bed late up early work demands it im in our yard by 0630 so im up at 0540 and on my way by 0615 but i go to bed at 2300 or later some times.

Tchocky · 11-29-07, 02:50 PM

The beloved rolls out of bed at 640, to get to work for 8. I usually don't have to be anywhere before 930-10, giving me plenty of snoozetime after waking up

Until about 6 months ago I was a strange sleeper. I'd go for weeks not sleeping more than 2 hours at a time, then drop off for 24 hours. Some weeks I'd be awake for a few days at a time....it wasn't by choice, thought I was going mad.

Konovalov · 11-29-07, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

7am start every morning deal with the kids, into work by 8:30 fuelled by 2 cups of strong sweet black coffee.....no wonder my CAD drawings have shaky lines in them

Same except for minus the kids but for how long? Gulp!

Oh yeah, I voted crack of a sparrows fart.

Skybird · 11-29-07, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

The beloved rolls out of bed at 640, to get to work for 8. I usually don't have to be anywhere before 930-10, giving me plenty of snoozetime after waking up

Until about 6 months ago I was a strange sleeper. I'd go for weeks not sleeping more than 2 hours at a time, then drop off for 24 hours. Some weeks I'd be awake for a few days at a time....it wasn't by choice, thought I was going mad.

Consider to see a doctor. That description could (=must not) be symptoms for more serious metabolic malfunctions.

View Poll Results: which of the following applies to you and why?
getting up at the crack of sparrows fart?	13	44.83%
going to bed with the sunrise?	6	20.69%
sleep is for loosers, you get loads more done in a 24h day	5	17.24%
had so little sleep I can barely thing straight	5	17.24%
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11-29-07, 03:09 AM	#1
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	the early bird catches.. er, something or other. Whilst enjoying my redundancy/unemployed status for a while now, my 'hours' have varied a great deal. From early to bed and early to rise, to sleep all day and be up all night and then back again, to a combination of the two (currently). __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

11-29-07, 03:11 AM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	You sound just like me (I'm a student and my main job right now is completely off-beat) :p __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

11-29-07, 03:26 AM	#3
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Sleep is for the weak. The wakeful will inherit the earth. falls over due to caffine overdose __________________

11-29-07, 04:41 AM	#5
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	7am start every morning deal with the kids, into work by 8:30 fuelled by 2 cups of strong sweet black coffee.....no wonder my CAD drawings have shaky lines in them __________________

11-29-07, 04:41 AM	#6
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	^^ __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

11-29-07, 06:09 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Scientifically, around 15% of the population in Western nations are rated as "owls", and another 15%, roughly, to be "larks" - says sleep researchers. It is a probabaly genetic disposition for going early or going late to bed, and we talk about very huge time shifts here, 5-8 hours. Such people do not sleep more or less than everyone, it also is not a habit, or symptom of a deeper disease. People affected that way never get used to needing to violate their inner clock, it ticks the same way like other's people's, they do not sleep more or less than others, but their phase is totally desynchronized to that of the majority of people. I once read that they also seem to be more sensitive to moon influence, but that was still under examination back then. I know what all that means, since I am heavily affected from that "problem" myself, since my earliest childhood days (when I drove my parents crazy). School's first two hours were hell, only teachers knowing me for a longer while left me alone in the first two hours, knwoing that that guy is only physically present before 10 am. Today I raise at 10:30 or 11:00 am, means: i wake up, if I can manage to delay all dates of the day to the afternoon, and go to bed at around 3:30 or 4:00 am. At midnight I gain another mental climax, I do kitchen work 1 am in the morning, and dinner is at 9 pm. Deep in the night I am as awake as most of you are at 11 am. Raising with you for brakefast at 7:30 would feel for me like you being thrown out of the bed at 2:00 am. Interestingly, certain health problems I had in the past, disappeared when I finally gave in to my shifted biorythm and allowed it to have it's way. In the years I gave daily meditations classes from 0900 to 1030, were hell for me, concerning the time - for me it felt like monks in a monastery starting their day at 0400 in the morning. My grandfather, his brother, and their father also were known to dance around until the sun went up (antoher hint for the genetic disposition). My grandfather was teacher. He used to come home from school, ate something, went to sleep, raised in the early evening, and then did the remaining work, did what we do - but late in the night, and then went to work again. No problem if you have an envrionment where you can have that way. If you are depending on a timetable saying 8 a.m. "job", it is very bad, and messes up your life. Me - one can hardly be any more night-active than I am. Should have been born as a vampyre, maybe. It is assumed to be a genetical disposition indeed. Usual explanations like ill metabolism, probolems with the tyroid gland, cardiovascular probolems, do not explain those people being identified as owls and larks. If it is a disease, so far noone has found the cause, and remedy. I tend to think it is just natural fluctuation of a population's characteristic, the two extremes at the upper and lower 15%. Even when staying in the african and ME countries, these things posed problems to me. Glad I am in a position i can avoid needing to violate this differently ticking clock, at least most days. And amongst those being affected, not all are affected as massive as extreme examples like me. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-29-07, 12:36 PM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,255 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Best kept secret.....you get more done if you get up and out early. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-29-07, 12:41 PM	#9
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The early bird gets the worm but it's the 2nd mouse that gets the cheese. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

11-29-07, 12:43 PM	#10
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	And now I shall............................ Think about voting, this could take some time. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

11-29-07, 12:58 PM	#11
fatty The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,448 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In my first undergrad year I was staying up late and getting up early to handle the worldload. It was painful and I was falling asleep in lecture all the time. Now I've just adapted to it and usually only need 5-6 hours of sleep to be fully functional. I pick up the rest on the weekend.

11-29-07, 02:28 PM	#12
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Me bed late up early work demands it im in our yard by 0630 so im up at 0540 and on my way by 0615 but i go to bed at 2300 or later some times. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-29-07, 02:50 PM	#13
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The beloved rolls out of bed at 640, to get to work for 8. I usually don't have to be anywhere before 930-10, giving me plenty of snoozetime after waking up Until about 6 months ago I was a strange sleeper. I'd go for weeks not sleeping more than 2 hours at a time, then drop off for 24 hours. Some weeks I'd be awake for a few days at a time....it wasn't by choice, thought I was going mad. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]