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Old 11-05-07, 04:08 PM   #16
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War in the Boats by Wiliam J. Ruhe is a good read, especially his experiances on S boats.

Run Silent, Run Deep by Edward L. Beach, is a classic and although its a ficticious story, Beach served on fleet boats during the war and much of the story is based on RL events. Its a very good introduction to US subs and a good read too. Plus you will know all about 'Bungo Pete' by the end of it! Its the first book I read on the subject of US subs.

Silent Victory by Clay Blair, as has already been mentioned, is essential reading, I'm halfway through it at the moment.

If you are looking for an accessable technical book about fleet boats, try the Osprey New Vanguard book on US subs 1941 to 1945. Its easy to read and is well illustrated. However it doesn't go into great depth about the subject.

As for U boats

Das Boot by Lothar-Gunther Buchheim (who sadly died just recently) is the classic sub novel. A very good read and plenty to get through too. It forms the basis of the eponimous film which is possibly the best naval film ever made sub or surface IMO!

Iron Coffins By Herbert A. Werner is also a very goo read, as has been said its a very personal account of the U boat war. It can also be a devastating read as you find out what happened to U boats in 1943! Werner could possibly be the luckiest U boat commander of the war and one of the few to survive it.

Thats pretty much my reading list at the moment.
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Old 11-05-07, 04:11 PM   #17
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Read Silent Victory a couple of times.

If one really wants to read the Grail, though, of the US Navy, it will always be Samuel Eliot Morison. EVERY FREAKING VOLUME. I'm getting closer and closer.....
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Old 11-05-07, 06:01 PM   #18
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Just orderd a copy of U.S. subs Down Under {Brisbane, 1942-1945} by David Jones and Peter Nunan .Aussie writers tell story of the first Sboats to arrive in 42 to stories of USS Wahoo, Growler, Flying fish. The comadry between the mericans and the Aussies. Should be an interesting read
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Old 11-05-07, 09:32 PM   #19
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Since your new love is American, and not a Frauline, the choices are slightly more limited, there are way many more books on U-Boats than US Fleet Boats, which is annoying, but there you go. However, if it's technical info you crave, I can definitely recommend both the Osprey range of books and the Squadron/Signal ones too, they are aimed primarily at modelers, providing details on where everything is etc, but they do still contain a lot of great info, history and detail on what is what on a submarine and have loads of great pictures, they are cheap too, some links here:

http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/pr...6&cat=0&page=1

http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/pr...6&cat=0&page=1

If it's reading of their exploits you seek, then there are a number of biographies and autobiographies by famous Sub skippers, this is a good site for stuff like that, also sells memorabilia:

http://sonic.net/~books/

If it's tactics you are after, then books on German subs are well worth reading about too, as a good tactic, is a good tactic whatever flag you fly. So things like Iron Coffins, Das Boot etc etc, are all worth checking out.

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Old 11-05-07, 09:59 PM   #20
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"A Time to Die: The Untold Story of the Kursk Tragedy" by Robert Moore

This book is a must read imho no matter which side of "the pond" you are from. A true story from the modern era of submarines.

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Old 11-05-07, 11:31 PM   #21
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I recommend "Red Scorpion" it's about the war patrols of the USS Rasher. Excellent book...
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Old 11-05-07, 11:50 PM   #22
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"War under the Pacific" by Time Life, it details U.S. Subs in the Pacific, and a little on Japanese submarines.
"Batfish" by Hughtson Lowder, about the one and only Champion submarine killing submarine of WWII
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Old 11-06-07, 12:03 AM   #23
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Another vote for 'Thunder below' by Eugene Fluckey. Now that I'm in to SH4 I'm re-reading it (this is the third time around) and it still doesn't lose its appeal.

It is written mainly in the first person by Fluckey, who was captain of the USS Barb in 1944-1945, but is backed up by historical information obtained from the japanese post-war, crew diaries, etc..

The book is sub-titled "The USS Barb revolutionises submarine warfare in WW2" and it is quite apparent Fluckey and his crew did just that. It is quite simply just a great story about a great man, great crew and great sub.

My second favourite is the old classic "Sun Silent Run Deep". Again an excellent book written by an author who knows their stuff
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Old 11-06-07, 09:54 AM   #24
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if your into german subs have a read of "black May" by michael Gannon very good book on the battle for the atlantic and the turning point in may 43 (black may)

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Old 11-06-07, 06:28 PM   #25
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Recently I just got most of Beach's books other than submarine, which I plan to get soon, and Pigboat 39, really good story about the career of the USS S-39. I plan on getting Norman Friedman's book about US Submarine design up to 1945 soon. I already got his Post 45 book, all I can say is AWSOME!!!
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Old 11-06-07, 07:13 PM   #26
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Friedman's book are only for the serious student. I wouldn't drop him on somebody unless they wanted to do some rivet counting.

Having said that, I did read the pre-45 edition.
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Old 11-06-07, 07:17 PM   #27
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Hi mates,

After playing Sh4 (my first sub game) i have become fascinated with submarine warfare and would like to know anyone could recommed a good sub book or two to sastisfy my new found love?

Thus far, my list of books im considering are: 1) Silent Hunters: German uboats commanders of WW II (theodore savas) 2)Hunt and Kill:U 505 & Uboat War in Atlantic and 3) Iron Coffins: a personal account of German Uboat Battles of WWII

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
I can help , give me a minute to post the library pix.:hmm:
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Old 11-06-07, 07:31 PM   #28
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Some great selections here.. including some new ones I've missed.

If you want some good reading from the U-Boat killer side, my recommendations are Walker RN, (about Johnny Walker, the ace U-boat killer), Convoy Commander (U-Boat Killer in paperback) about Donald MacIntyre,RN and Dan Gallery's U-505 (already on your list). Iron Coffins is one of my favorites from the U-Boat side. Roscoe's U.S Submarines in WWI is the classic although reading a 600+ page book in bed is never easy. Enjoy! You have hours of interesting reading ahead of you.
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Hi mates,

After playing Sh4 (my first sub game) i have become fascinated with submarine warfare and would like to know anyone could recommed a good sub book or two to sastisfy my new found love?

Thus far, my list of books im considering are: 1) Silent Hunters: German uboats commanders of WW II (theodore savas) 2)Hunt and Kill:U 505 & Uboat War in Atlantic and 3) Iron Coffins: a personal account of German Uboat Battles of WWII

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
I can help , give me a minute to post the library pix.:hmm:
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