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View Poll Results: Rusty or Not
Rusty Look 46 49.46%
New Paint look 47 50.54%
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Old 10-18-07, 06:19 AM   #1
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Default Rusty or Not

im curious...seen alot of skins with rust, look like they are about one patrol away from splitting apart...
then again the nice clean paints that look like a new boat...
Which do you captain...and why
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Old 10-18-07, 06:33 AM   #2
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New bacause real subs never got as rusty as some skins show.
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Old 10-18-07, 07:24 AM   #3
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I prefer skins were the boat maybe looked slightly used and not as if it just came out of the wharf. Some skins show a little rust around the flood holes. That looks pretty nice.
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Old 10-18-07, 08:09 AM   #4
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New bacause real subs never got as rusty as some skins show.
Agreed. I think most of that 'rusty' photos were taken long after the war ended.
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Old 10-18-07, 09:34 AM   #5
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I never been in the navy but I seriously doubt when the boat is at port for re-stock that the crew was given a 2 week leave to go on a drinking spree as you see in movies ......

Plus I doubt that Hitler ( or any other country's leader ) would appreiciate their war machines looking like something from a junk yard ......
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Old 10-18-07, 10:38 AM   #6
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Personally,I like a little bit of rust in the early war years(even new or just painted stuff soon rusts in a sea enviroment)and a bit more signs of use in the later war years as man power diminished and allied air raids took their toll on normal kriegsmarine efficiency and supplies
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Old 10-18-07, 02:28 PM   #7
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Default it depends...

I would expect MY boat in a fresh camo scheme and always to be in perfect combat readiness condition.
But all those other boat I see in the harbor or in the open sea are likely to be rusty and "used"...

If I understand it right, the skin must be for all subs of the same type the same?
OK, I hope all the other commanders are up to my standard , let all boats be clean and freshly painted!
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Old 10-18-07, 04:02 PM   #8
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I voted rusty. And i still vote for rusted, weathered, rawaged by depth charges and totally USED skin witch depth charged story. Rusted skin looks more realistic than fresh painted one.
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Old 10-18-07, 04:33 PM   #9
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I never been in the navy but I seriously doubt when the boat is at port for re-stock that the crew was given a 2 week leave to go on a drinking spree as you see in movies ......

Plus I doubt that Hitler ( or any other country's leader ) would appreiciate their war machines looking like something from a junk yard ......
Crew did indeed spend most of their time after a patrol 'enjoing' themselves. They would be celebrating the fact that they had survived and living life to the full for the few weeks leave they got till the next patrol which might be their last! Refits were not carried out by the crew in the case of the KM U boats were taken in hand by work men and dock fitters and in the USN an entire 'relief crew' would take over the boat when it came back in port.

U boats like any other military vehicles are simply machines and as such their appearance in wartime was only of interest as far as it affected their combat effectiveness. Therefore rust was only a problem if began to damage the boat or it affected the ability of its camoflage to hide it.

I've never served in the navy, but I have a good friend who served 23 years in the RN. According to him the condition of a vessel can depend on many factors. The quality of paint and the ability of those who apply it and maintain it. The length of time a vessel spends on patrol and between refits. The weather conditions it encounters. Where its sent and during wartime what sort of enemy action it encounters. Some vessels can appear in a very sorry state, others can be in very good condition and all shades in between. So really all of the rusty skins are just as accurate as the clean ones.
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Old 10-18-07, 04:58 PM   #10
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Exactly my thinking mrbeast I've always been of the opinion that in war time certain jobs will get done and sometimes not,towards the end of the war I doubt very much if giving a U-boat a fresh lick of paint came very high on the agender and I dare say supply always outstripped demand,a fine balance is whats required healthy maintanance Vs good old wear and tear
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Old 10-18-07, 07:59 PM   #11
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I voted Rusty. In peacetime or in rear areas the crew can be put to work painting a surface ship, but on a submarine the parts that need the most attention would always have water flowing over and around. In port I'm sure if the boat was getting a major overhaul things would be repainted, but how do you do that at sea in a war zone?
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Old 10-18-07, 09:40 PM   #12
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New or light rust.

In wartime the only thing that you need is a group of prisoners of war or foreign workers and fresh paint.

also a lot of work could be inside of the boat so exteriors can be painted easily, except in case of external damage.

Look the shine on the bow of this uboat

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Old 10-18-07, 09:57 PM   #13
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I've seen a visited a few destroyers in my time and they seem to be nicely painted even to hide the rust. They did keep there boats maintained. So I say release both. Weathered and new! This way everybodys is happy. I like new boats. Too bad the game doesn't rust the boats during patrols. Now that would be an interesting mod?:hmm:
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Old 10-18-07, 11:44 PM   #14
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I assume the dockyard workers can take a few hours to chip and paint the hull of my U-boat before departure, so I use the freshly painted look. IRL there was (and is) no point in exposing more steel to corrosion than is absolutely necessary. You might find a few poorly maintained merchant ships with that scuzzy look, but not a man o'war.

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Old 10-19-07, 01:06 AM   #15
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Quote:
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New or light rust.

In wartime the only thing that you need is a group of prisoners of war or foreign workers and fresh paint.
No thanks mate! Last thing i'd want is POWs or untrustworthy people working on my premier offensive weapon!!!!!
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