Automatic TDC dosen`t work

jorgeneo560 · 09-08-07, 09:15 PM

I am ver very disapointed with this ****ing game

, i have downloaded and installed correctly all the parches and 1.3 too and the tdc system dosent work some times

, and i dont have time to know who to use the manual system becouse the unuversity demand a lot of time, anybody know how to fix this problem? please help me before i crack the dvd and install the previous game
please email me if anybody have a parche that can solve the problem

FAdmiral · 09-08-07, 09:21 PM

I have had a bad install of the original game and one of the patches.
I will suggest what I did the last time. Uninstall everything (and I mean
everything related to SH4) reinstall the game, patch to 1.3 only.
Be careful about adding mods after this cause they can cause conflicts
sometimes. Do tests on mission & single patrols till you achieve what
you want in the game. Then tackle the campaigns....

JIM

jorgeneo560 · 09-08-07, 09:23 PM

:S i have done that millons of times

anyway thanks for you help, i have seen that some files with the same name are in the previous version, i will try to import the old tdc system to the game

LukeFF · 09-09-07, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeneo560

i have seen that some files with the same name are in the previous version, i will try to import the old tdc system to the game

There is no "old TDC system." You just aren't calculating your solutions right. Watch TDC training vidoes created by WernerSobe and stickied in this forum to see how to use the TDC properly.

jorgeneo560 · 09-09-07, 11:57 AM

you dosent understand or i am wrong, in the game options are a button that says if you lock a craft with the periscope or tbt the solution on tdc will be automatic, and sometimes work and others don´t work and that have me very very angry

i cant beleve that a corporation like ubisoft launch to the market a game with a millons of bugs and after a second parche they says that the game will be no longer soported

.

donut · 09-09-07, 12:18 PM

Since you may be the only confirmation.It really sounds like your install is corrupted. Reinstall advised

silentscorp1971 · 09-09-07, 12:24 PM

Not exactly sure what the problem is, are you having trouble with auto-tdc being auto.. or manual-tdc being manual?

If you are using auto-tdc (as in you have unchecked the "use manual tdc" button in the options panel) you simply have to place the periscope vertical crosshair onto a ship and it will automate do the solution for you. You will see a small arrow icon under the ship and its color will denote the quailty of the solution (red=bad, green=good). To "lock" a target click the "L" key by default, this simply locks the periscope onto the ships middle so it follows it without you having to turn the periscope. This works in manual or auto tdc.

There is no way to toggle between auto/manual during a game. If your on auto it will automatically calculate a solution for whatever ship is currently under the periscope. If its manual you have to do it all by hand. Lock periscope is just that. Locks periscope view on current target.

FAdmiral · 09-09-07, 03:53 PM

After you lock the green triangle to the target & fire the torpedo, do you
mean the torpedo will sometimes hit and sometimes miss? We are all trying to
understand what you are saying but the language difference is throwing things
off here.

JIM

Theraven · 09-09-07, 04:57 PM

This actually happens to me too. I use the auto-targetting system and sometimes, when I pop the periscope up it's like the game doesn't recognize there is a ship there to target. No little triangle pops up when the crosshairs are on the ship, I can't lock onto it, etc. Which means I can't fire my torps at it, unless I feel like firing blindly with no firing solution. Sometimes it randomly starts working after a few seconds (or at most a couple minutes), sometimes it does not. In the cases where it doesn't I usually just raise/lower the scope a couple times and it starts working.

I have also noticed that when I can't target using the periscope I also can't target using the on deck binoculars, I've surfaced a couple times when this has happened to check it out. I have checked to make sure I didn't leave my crew at battle stations too long and caused them to be really fatigued or even asleep, as I have experienced that before and it's basically the same symptoms, the crew is so tired they don't detect the ship is there even though I can clearly see it in the periscope.
This problem started happening for me when I uninstalled the +25% torpedo power mod and installed the real sinking mechanics mod, and these are the only mods I have ever used. I'm not saying either of these mods caused the problem, but it's possible some game files were corrupted in the process of installing/uninstalling the mods. Or it may be a bug with the new mod, but a lot of people use it and it's likely it would have been caught by now if that was the case. It's really more of an annoyance than anything, and like I said it usually goes away by itself. It's certainly not worth the 4-5 hours it would take to reinstall the game, to me anyways.

jorgeneo560 · 09-09-07, 05:34 PM

i have complete two times the career of sh3 so i know very well well who to play, the problem that i am having is that sometimes it`s work fine the tdc in automatic mode, but somethimes when i lock on a ship with the periscope the solution dosent appear in the torpedo map, dosen`t appear any green line and when i shot the torpedo follow the last tdc configuration and if i dont have made a lock before the torpedo fires with the default solution that have when the game is loaded, even if i switch to manual mode and change some things like bearing or range when i switch again to automatic it have the default or previos solution again.
I dont have mods installed only the parches, the only thing that i do is increse the compresion time, but i cant play in 1:1 time compresion a patroll it wel be take a real weak or a month

.
And the crew ever make a solution but if taired the solution is very bad, but i have a excelent crew in the 3 turns, and i have modified the crew.cfg one to make a unfatigable crew and the tdc have the same problem (i actualy play with an a original crew.cfg)
nasty engine real sucks.
Sory for my inglish i speak spanish

kurohone · 09-09-07, 08:08 PM

How close are you to the ships in question, and what is the weather like?

One of the frustrating things about auto-TDC (I use it as well) is that it doesn't 'see' a ship until it thinks that a random crewmember on your ship can 'see' it (like, whomever is manning the periscope while you're at the nav table). Using the bridge TDC, with it's high-zoom factor, you can usually see about 4-5000 yards on a clear night, but it won't appear on the TDC until it's on the low end of that scale. In stormy weather it can be much worse...i've had ships close to within 700 yards before the TDC picked them up.

Theraven · 09-09-07, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurohone

How close are you to the ships in question, and what is the weather like?

Perfectly clear day, within 1000 yards, calm seas. I know about bad weather and the factors that normally prevent my crew from noticing ships (like fatigue, bad weather, darkness), this is something completely different. I've been in bad enough weather that the crew can't see a ship until it's 500 yards or less even though sonar and radar both pick them up and I can see it in the periscope. The problem doesn't happen often but it's sure annoying when it does.

McBeck · 09-10-07, 08:48 AM

2 stupid questions:

1) Do you open your torpedo doors prior to hitting Enter?
2) Have you set your realism settings in the career mode too?

SteamWake · 09-10-07, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeneo560

becouse the unuversity demand a lot of time

Woah... :hmm:

Im guessing he never broke the 'lock' from the previous target or the periscope was below water surface breaking lock.

Or firing from 10,000 yards out.

In a nutshell auto TDC does work. Almost too well. If you know all the 'tricks'.

jorgeneo560 · 09-10-07, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeneo560

becouse the unuversity demand a lot of time

Woah... :hmm:

Im guessing he never broke the 'lock' from the previous target or the periscope was below water surface breaking lock.

Or firing from 10,000 yards out.

In a nutshell auto TDC does work. Almost too well. If you know all the 'tricks'.

can you read al my post before answer? i say that i complete the sh3 career two time and i know very very well that you cant fire a torpedo to a ship more than 5000 meters becouse can fail, and when the tdc fails it dosen`t mather whow afar is the craft and i have tested the tdc on fine water on day calm sea and sunny and fails too.
And i never broke the lock for a previos ship becouse after you have destroy that ship it automatic broke the lock even when the tdc dosen`t work in automatic mode, so for post here play the game first

09-08-07, 09:15 PM	#1
jorgeneo560 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Automatic TDC dosen`t work I am ver very disapointed with this ****ing game , i have downloaded and installed correctly all the parches and 1.3 too and the tdc system dosent work some times , and i dont have time to know who to use the manual system becouse the unuversity demand a lot of time, anybody know how to fix this problem? please help me before i crack the dvd and install the previous game please email me if anybody have a parche that can solve the problem

09-08-07, 09:21 PM	#2
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I have had a bad install of the original game and one of the patches. I will suggest what I did the last time. Uninstall everything (and I mean everything related to SH4) reinstall the game, patch to 1.3 only. Be careful about adding mods after this cause they can cause conflicts sometimes. Do tests on mission & single patrols till you achieve what you want in the game. Then tackle the campaigns.... JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

09-09-07, 12:18 PM	#6
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	@jorgeneo560 Since you may be the only confirmation.It really sounds like your install is corrupted. Reinstall advised

09-09-07, 03:53 PM	#8
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	After you lock the green triangle to the target & fire the torpedo, do you mean the torpedo will sometimes hit and sometimes miss? We are all trying to understand what you are saying but the language difference is throwing things off here. JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

09-10-07, 08:48 AM	#13
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	2 stupid questions: 1) Do you open your torpedo doors prior to hitting Enter? 2) Have you set your realism settings in the career mode too? __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

09-08-07, 09:23 PM	#3
jorgeneo560 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	:S i have done that millons of times anyway thanks for you help, i have seen that some files with the same name are in the previous version, i will try to import the old tdc system to the game

09-09-07, 11:57 AM	#5
jorgeneo560 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	you dosent understand or i am wrong, in the game options are a button that says if you lock a craft with the periscope or tbt the solution on tdc will be automatic, and sometimes work and others don´t work and that have me very very angry i cant beleve that a corporation like ubisoft launch to the market a game with a millons of bugs and after a second parche they says that the game will be no longer soported .

09-09-07, 12:24 PM	#7
silentscorp1971 Sailor man Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 45 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Not exactly sure what the problem is, are you having trouble with auto-tdc being auto.. or manual-tdc being manual? If you are using auto-tdc (as in you have unchecked the "use manual tdc" button in the options panel) you simply have to place the periscope vertical crosshair onto a ship and it will automate do the solution for you. You will see a small arrow icon under the ship and its color will denote the quailty of the solution (red=bad, green=good). To "lock" a target click the "L" key by default, this simply locks the periscope onto the ships middle so it follows it without you having to turn the periscope. This works in manual or auto tdc. There is no way to toggle between auto/manual during a game. If your on auto it will automatically calculate a solution for whatever ship is currently under the periscope. If its manual you have to do it all by hand. Lock periscope is just that. Locks periscope view on current target.

09-09-07, 04:57 PM	#9
Theraven Seaman Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 35 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This actually happens to me too. I use the auto-targetting system and sometimes, when I pop the periscope up it's like the game doesn't recognize there is a ship there to target. No little triangle pops up when the crosshairs are on the ship, I can't lock onto it, etc. Which means I can't fire my torps at it, unless I feel like firing blindly with no firing solution. Sometimes it randomly starts working after a few seconds (or at most a couple minutes), sometimes it does not. In the cases where it doesn't I usually just raise/lower the scope a couple times and it starts working. I have also noticed that when I can't target using the periscope I also can't target using the on deck binoculars, I've surfaced a couple times when this has happened to check it out. I have checked to make sure I didn't leave my crew at battle stations too long and caused them to be really fatigued or even asleep, as I have experienced that before and it's basically the same symptoms, the crew is so tired they don't detect the ship is there even though I can clearly see it in the periscope. This problem started happening for me when I uninstalled the +25% torpedo power mod and installed the real sinking mechanics mod, and these are the only mods I have ever used. I'm not saying either of these mods caused the problem, but it's possible some game files were corrupted in the process of installing/uninstalling the mods. Or it may be a bug with the new mod, but a lot of people use it and it's likely it would have been caught by now if that was the case. It's really more of an annoyance than anything, and like I said it usually goes away by itself. It's certainly not worth the 4-5 hours it would take to reinstall the game, to me anyways.

09-09-07, 05:34 PM	#10
jorgeneo560 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i have complete two times the career of sh3 so i know very well well who to play, the problem that i am having is that sometimes it`s work fine the tdc in automatic mode, but somethimes when i lock on a ship with the periscope the solution dosent appear in the torpedo map, dosen`t appear any green line and when i shot the torpedo follow the last tdc configuration and if i dont have made a lock before the torpedo fires with the default solution that have when the game is loaded, even if i switch to manual mode and change some things like bearing or range when i switch again to automatic it have the default or previos solution again. I dont have mods installed only the parches, the only thing that i do is increse the compresion time, but i cant play in 1:1 time compresion a patroll it wel be take a real weak or a month . And the crew ever make a solution but if taired the solution is very bad, but i have a excelent crew in the 3 turns, and i have modified the crew.cfg one to make a unfatigable crew and the tdc have the same problem (i actualy play with an a original crew.cfg) nasty engine real sucks. Sory for my inglish i speak spanish

09-09-07, 08:08 PM	#11
kurohone Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Landlocked Posts: 12 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	How close are you to the ships in question, and what is the weather like? One of the frustrating things about auto-TDC (I use it as well) is that it doesn't 'see' a ship until it thinks that a random crewmember on your ship can 'see' it (like, whomever is manning the periscope while you're at the nav table). Using the bridge TDC, with it's high-zoom factor, you can usually see about 4-5000 yards on a clear night, but it won't appear on the TDC until it's on the low end of that scale. In stormy weather it can be much worse...i've had ships close to within 700 yards before the TDC picked them up.