Sarkozys stunt at Bastil Day parade

Happy Times · 07-14-07, 02:43 PM

Interesting concept, interesting man.:hmm: Food for thought.

Yahoshua · 07-14-07, 04:51 PM

What am I supposed to notice?

Happy Times · 07-14-07, 05:45 PM

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What am I supposed to notice?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6898974.stm

We dont normally march in eachothers national day parades.

TteFAboB · 07-14-07, 07:27 PM

I remember seeing foreign troops marching many times in the past. Is it the first time that all 26 managed to go in together then?

The German flag bearer looks like a cool G.I. Joe action figure, the Spanish regiment looks like some sort of third-world Banana Republic Presidential guard, the Lithuanians and Estonians look like Russians and the Hungarians win a medal for nostalgia.

Yahoshua · 07-15-07, 06:47 AM

Ah, I see now.

I understand that this would be an event of symbolic significance but I'm not so sure it will accurately reflect the same for European politics. Sure they may all march together in parade, but I don't expect everybody to do the same at the negotiating table or in the EU parliament.

Dan D · 07-15-07, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TteFAboB

I remember seeing foreign troops marching many times in the past. Is it the first time that all 26 managed to go in together then?

The German flag bearer looks like a cool G.I. Joe action figure....

Mate, that is the Belgian flag. The Hermans are the ones in grey uniforms with white gloves.

Skybird · 07-15-07, 01:00 PM

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The Hermans are the ones in grey uniforms with white gloves.

Wrong.

Hermannsdenkmal, Detmold (Lippe)

Tchocky · 07-15-07, 01:13 PM

Yeah, Denmark's soldiers are usually the ones covered in verdigris

(I typed "shoulders" first time around - how odd)

The Avon Lady · 07-15-07, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

The Hermans are the ones in grey uniforms with white gloves.

What gloves?

Happy Times · 07-15-07, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

Ah, I see now.

I understand that this would be an event of symbolic significance but I'm not so sure it will accurately reflect the same for European politics. Sure they may all march together in parade, but I don't expect everybody to do the same at the negotiating table or in the EU parliament.

The whole EU as it is, i quote CIA factbook, "stands as an unprecedented phenomenon in the annals of history." , "for such a large number of nation-states to cede some of their sovereignty to an overarching entity is truly unique."
Only time will tell, probably our children will see the rise or fall.

They performed the anthem also. Sarkozy is clearly a very ambitious and good politician. If they click well with Merkel who knows what theyl come up with.

Skybird · 07-15-07, 05:02 PM

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They performed the anthem also. Sarkozy is clearly a very ambitious and good politician. If they click well with Merkel who knows what theyl come up with.

ECB and Airbus. End of well-clicking, period.

They already crashed over ECB, and now have started on Airbus. sarko wants to weaken the ECB and make it open to political governing, Germany wants exactly the opposite. sarko wants a stronger french political commanding in Airbus management, Germany wants exactly the opposite.

However, if Sarko fulfills the better part of expectations many, and me, put in him concenring european policies and taking on the EU cancer, I am willing to forgive him these two conflict-heavy issues i mentioned above. After all, Airbus was formed by French initiative. Only the ECB he needs to keep his hands off.

Heibges · 07-16-07, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

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Originally Posted by TteFAboB

I remember seeing foreign troops marching many times in the past. Is it the first time that all 26 managed to go in together then?

The German flag bearer looks like a cool G.I. Joe action figure....

Mate, that is the Belgian flag. The Hermans are the ones in grey uniforms with white gloves.

I saw a Bundeswehr General at a tank range here in the states, and he had a full beard like Kaiser Wilhelm.

Richard Blaine: I remember it like it was yesterday. You wore blue. The Germans wore gray.

Happy Times · 07-16-07, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

They performed the anthem also. Sarkozy is clearly a very ambitious and good politician. If they click well with Merkel who knows what theyl come up with.

ECB and Airbus. End of well-clicking, period.

They already crashed over ECB, and now have started on Airbus. sarko wants to weaken the ECB and make it open to political governing, Germany wants exactly the opposite. sarko wants a stronger french political commanding in Airbus management, Germany wants exactly the opposite.

However, if Sarko fulfills the better part of expectations many, and me, put in him concenring european policies and taking on the EU cancer, I am willing to forgive him these two conflict-heavy issues i mentioned above. After all, Airbus was formed by French initiative. Only the ECB he needs to keep his hands off.

Seems they can compromise.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6900414.stm

Skybird · 07-16-07, 11:17 AM

The French say the company is in danger to be taken over by the germans, and that the Germans are about getting all of Europe's military- space- and military high tech business under their unilateral control.

From Germany I hear that the French have pushed through their intention to get the top job to a French and thus: controlling the major office to influence the copmany.

Fact is that German head of Airbus must report to French head of EADS - not the other way around. Fact is that Gallois is close to Sarkozy. Fact is that EADS, not Airbus, is the centre of miliutary and space and hightech production beyond the Airbus range of airliners. So the french suspicion of the Germans bringing it all under their control is a bit absurd. If so, it is exactly the other way around.

but somehow they had to come together, it seems, and somehow the two offices needed to he distibuted. since germany also got the office of the chairman of the board, it is okay.

It's just that I am totally sure that with time passing by, Sarkozy will not leave it to this. Like he also will never give up to interfere with the ECB and bring it under stronger french political influence.

So it is a seize-fire. No peace. The high Euro can trigger the next showdown, even more so when it continues to climb.

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Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What am I supposed to notice? __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

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TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I remember seeing foreign troops marching many times in the past. Is it the first time that all 26 managed to go in together then? The German flag bearer looks like a cool G.I. Joe action figure, the Spanish regiment looks like some sort of third-world Banana Republic Presidential guard, the Lithuanians and Estonians look like Russians and the Hungarians win a medal for nostalgia. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

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Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ah, I see now. I understand that this would be an event of symbolic significance but I'm not so sure it will accurately reflect the same for European politics. Sure they may all march together in parade, but I don't expect everybody to do the same at the negotiating table or in the EU parliament. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Yeah, Denmark's soldiers are usually the ones covered in verdigris (I typed "shoulders" first time around - how odd) __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,628 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The French say the company is in danger to be taken over by the germans, and that the Germans are about getting all of Europe's military- space- and military high tech business under their unilateral control. From Germany I hear that the French have pushed through their intention to get the top job to a French and thus: controlling the major office to influence the copmany. Fact is that German head of Airbus must report to French head of EADS - not the other way around. Fact is that Gallois is close to Sarkozy. Fact is that EADS, not Airbus, is the centre of miliutary and space and hightech production beyond the Airbus range of airliners. So the french suspicion of the Germans bringing it all under their control is a bit absurd. If so, it is exactly the other way around. but somehow they had to come together, it seems, and somehow the two offices needed to he distibuted. since germany also got the office of the chairman of the board, it is okay. It's just that I am totally sure that with time passing by, Sarkozy will not leave it to this. Like he also will never give up to interfere with the ECB and bring it under stronger french political influence. So it is a seize-fire. No peace. The high Euro can trigger the next showdown, even more so when it continues to climb. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.