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Old 07-10-07, 09:19 AM   #1
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Default Russian submarine found in Swedish waters

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http://www.thelocal.se/7777/20070703/

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Old 07-10-07, 09:24 AM   #2
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Another story.

http://www.abc.se/%7Epa/uwa/s7.htm
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Old 07-10-07, 09:29 AM   #3
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I wonder how many un-sunk Russian subs are patrolling in Swedish waters?:hmm:
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I wonder how many un-sunk Russian subs are patrolling in Swedish waters?:hmm:
They're no use on the surface mate
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Old 07-10-07, 05:51 PM   #5
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Is sounds like a repeat of the group who found the miget Japanese submarine off Sydney last year. Everyone who had tried before couldn't find it, despite some major press coverage. Then a bunch of divers who are mates and go searching for wrecks in their spare time find it.

I'm glad to see that they have kept the location hidden so that the sub won't be distubed.
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Old 07-11-07, 01:43 PM   #6
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The baltic, especially in its northern and more deeper regions, is the perfect sea for wrecks.
Remember the salvage of the Wasa. Wood does not decompose there as quickly as in other seas and most damage to wrecks is actually done by human interference (nets, anchors, deliberate demolition, wartime depth charges etc) instead of worms or bacteria or currents.



Here's a pic of a 18th century sailing vessel, a two masted brig or brigantine which was simply sitting upright at the bottom with its masts still intact in around 100 meters of water. It simply looked as if somebody had parked it there and forgotten it for over 200 years. Such a find is important because there's actually little known about everyday small merchant craft of that era. Plans for warships have been preserved in state archives, but not for such smaller vessels.
The greatest concern for this wreck is that some moron will simply demolish it by accident.
http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/
Here's a homepage with a lot of baltic wrecks
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Old 07-11-07, 03:17 PM   #7
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Give it back to the Russians....they might be able to sell it to the Chinese
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The baltic, especially in its northern and more deeper regions, is the perfect sea for wrecks.
Remember the salvage of the Wasa. Wood does not decompose there as quickly as in other seas and most damage to wrecks is actually done by human interference (nets, anchors, deliberate demolition, wartime depth charges etc) instead of worms or bacteria or currents.



Here's a pic of a 18th century sailing vessel, a two masted brig or brigantine which was simply sitting upright at the bottom with its masts still intact in around 100 meters of water. It simply looked as if somebody had parked it there and forgotten it for over 200 years. Such a find is important because there's actually little known about everyday small merchant craft of that era. Plans for warships have been preserved in state archives, but not for such smaller vessels.
The greatest concern for this wreck is that some moron will simply demolish it by accident.
http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/
Here's a homepage with a lot of baltic wrecks
The Wrouw Maria is very interesting as its cargo is known from Dutch customs documents. It contained silver and lacquer works, bronze statues, ivory works, furniture and pantings in lead cylinders bought by Catherine the Great. Russia is interested in co operating with the recovery. Im all for that if that will help the other issues straining the relations. Infact i would give them whole cargo, thats were it was going originally.

http://www.abc.se/~m10354/publ/vr_maria.htm

http://newsroom.finland.fi/stt/showa...&group=General
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