UK TV viewers heads up! 100 Greatest War films of all time.

Konovalov · 07-01-07, 01:22 PM

You may have missed the first half of the countdown on Channel 4 last night: http://www.channel4.com/film/newsfea...lms/index.html

The second half screens this Saturday 7th July on Channel 4 at 7pm counting down the final top 50. Program it on your Sky box if you haven't already done so.

I expect Das Boot to be right up there along with Apocalypse Now and Saving Private Ryan.

Heibges · 07-01-07, 01:27 PM

Casablanca #30? Gimme a break!

Especially with Schindler's List at #4, which isn't any more of a war movie than Casablanca.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Konovalov · 07-01-07, 01:36 PM

As expected. It was bound to spark some debate. Didn't take long.

Heibges · 07-01-07, 01:42 PM

And SPR #1?

The plot is moronic.

It's beyond moronic.

It's sub-moronic.

NefariousKoel · 07-01-07, 01:47 PM

While Saving Private Ryan was a good movie.. it evolved into the realm of fantasy or at least unbelievability.

I saw that Full Metal Jacket ranked #5. I think it should've been #1 just because it's down in the dirt with the grunts... no special mission... no special anything. Just doin' their job.

Heibges · 07-01-07, 02:08 PM

#93 Europa Europa This movie is so cleverly constructed, that it is amazing that it is a true story. Should have been top 10.

#89 Von Ryan's Express

Unwatchable. Not top 100.

#84 The Caine Mutiny

Gime a break. Top 10.

#78 Breaker Morant

Top 20.

#73 Ride With the Devil

Unwatchable. Not top 100.

The Munster · 07-01-07, 02:27 PM

Von Ryans Express .. Yuk .. goes on forever, hours upon hours of total rubbish

Come to think of it, Where Eagles Dare is a bit like that too ?!

NefariousKoel · 07-01-07, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Munson

Von Ryans Express .. Yuk .. goes on forever, hours upon hours of total rubbish

Come to think of it, Where Eagles Dare is a bit like that too ?!

Many of the over-acted sh!tty black & white movies there don't qualify. I guess the old people just have to die off before much of this list is cleaned up.

Jimbuna · 07-01-07, 02:52 PM

Wasn't at all suprised to see Schindler's list in the top 10

TLAM Strike · 07-02-07, 12:31 PM

Cross of Iron should have been in the top 20 at least.

Rambo: First Blood as 100? Shouldn't have even been on the list. Flight of the Intruder should have gotten that spot (or higher).

Chock · 07-02-07, 03:29 PM

Jeez - who came up with that list?

Half of them I wouldn't even classify as war movies, and a good proportion of them are just the opposite, i.e. anti-war movies, which while it's a cool genre in itself, should not be populatiing a list of 'war movies'. Admittedly there are a few films which transcend the boundary (i.e Das Boot, which laughably isn't in the Top Ten of that list for some reason), but not many.

And someone needs to point out to the people that voted on this, that just because a movie is set in wartime, it does not make it a 'war movie', it makes a it 'a movie set in wartime', which is a completely different thing. No wonder Channel 4 is a big pile of arse if the producers of this list can't even determine that fairly basic distinction.

Cross of Iron at 37? What were they thinking?

A matter of Life and Death and Casablanca are great films, but they sure as hell aint War Movies.
Funniest one on the list has got to be The English Patient? WTF? that's a chick flick, not a War Movie, and not even a very good chick flick at that.

What a preposterous list.

Chock

Sailor Steve · 07-02-07, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

While Saving Private Ryan was a good movie.. it evolved into the realm of fantasy or at least unbelievability.

I saw that Full Metal Jacket ranked #5. I think it should've been #1 just because it's down in the dirt with the grunts... no special mission... no special anything. Just doin' their job.

I'm sorry, but FMJ may have been a great movie to somebody else, but I was in Vietnam, and I LOATHE Full Metal Jacket. I'll take The Boys In Company C anyday.

Chock · 07-02-07, 04:19 PM

The problem I have with Full Metal Jacket is that Kubrick insisted on directing the Vietnam location scenes in London of all places on the docklands, thinking that ramming a few Palm trees in the ground would make it look like a convincing version of the Tet Offensive. Offensive it certainly was, but convincing it was not!

I think Hamburger Hill is a much better attempt at that kind of movie and apart from the chopper pilots wearing (bullet magnet) white bonedomes on the helicopter assault, Hamburger Hill is pretty convincing.

Chock

Sailor Steve · 07-02-07, 04:21 PM

Well, I tend to overreact, mainly because I blew chunks when they got to the part in boot camp where the fat kid kills R. Lee Ermey. I had a hard time enjoying any of it after that.

Heibges · 07-02-07, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Well, I tend to overreact, mainly because I blew chunks when they got to the part in boot camp where the fat kid kills R. Lee Ermey. I had a hard time enjoying any of it after that.

It's funny that R. Lee Ermey has the same role in both movies. But Boys was made for TV and PG, and FMJ is definitly rated R.

Ermey has ended up in some great movies not counting FMJ and BiCC.
Mississippi Burning, Seven, The Salton Sea, Toy Story I/II, Leaving Las Vegas, Dead Man Walking

Give me R. Lee Ermey over Dale Dye any old day of the week!

07-01-07, 01:27 PM	#2
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Casablanca #30? Gimme a break! Especially with Schindler's List at #4, which isn't any more of a war movie than Casablanca. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

07-01-07, 02:08 PM	#6
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	#93 Europa Europa This movie is so cleverly constructed, that it is amazing that it is a true story. Should have been top 10. #89 Von Ryan's Express Unwatchable. Not top 100. #84 The Caine Mutiny Gime a break. Top 10. #78 Breaker Morant Top 20. #73 Ride With the Devil Unwatchable. Not top 100. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Cross of Iron should have been in the top 20 at least. Rambo: First Blood as 100? Shouldn't have even been on the list. Flight of the Intruder should have gotten that spot (or higher). __________________

07-02-07, 03:29 PM	#11
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Jeez - who came up with that list? Half of them I wouldn't even classify as war movies, and a good proportion of them are just the opposite, i.e. anti-war movies, which while it's a cool genre in itself, should not be populatiing a list of 'war movies'. Admittedly there are a few films which transcend the boundary (i.e Das Boot, which laughably isn't in the Top Ten of that list for some reason), but not many. And someone needs to point out to the people that voted on this, that just because a movie is set in wartime, it does not make it a 'war movie', it makes a it 'a movie set in wartime', which is a completely different thing. No wonder Channel 4 is a big pile of arse if the producers of this list can't even determine that fairly basic distinction. Cross of Iron at 37? What were they thinking? A matter of Life and Death and Casablanca are great films, but they sure as hell aint War Movies. Funniest one on the list has got to be The English Patient? WTF? that's a chick flick, not a War Movie, and not even a very good chick flick at that. What a preposterous list. Chock __________________

07-02-07, 04:19 PM	#13
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The problem I have with Full Metal Jacket is that Kubrick insisted on directing the Vietnam location scenes in London of all places on the docklands, thinking that ramming a few Palm trees in the ground would make it look like a convincing version of the Tet Offensive. Offensive it certainly was, but convincing it was not! I think Hamburger Hill is a much better attempt at that kind of movie and apart from the chopper pilots wearing (bullet magnet) white bonedomes on the helicopter assault, Hamburger Hill is pretty convincing. Chock __________________

07-01-07, 01:22 PM	#1
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	UK TV viewers heads up! 100 Greatest War films of all time. You may have missed the first half of the countdown on Channel 4 last night: http://www.channel4.com/film/newsfea...lms/index.html The second half screens this Saturday 7th July on Channel 4 at 7pm counting down the final top 50. Program it on your Sky box if you haven't already done so. I expect Das Boot to be right up there along with Apocalypse Now and Saving Private Ryan. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

07-01-07, 01:36 PM	#3
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	As expected. It was bound to spark some debate. Didn't take long. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

07-01-07, 01:42 PM	#4
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	And SPR #1? The plot is moronic. It's beyond moronic. It's sub-moronic. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

07-01-07, 01:47 PM	#5
NefariousKoel Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: No-good Missouri scum Posts: 1,223 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	While Saving Private Ryan was a good movie.. it evolved into the realm of fantasy or at least unbelievability. I saw that Full Metal Jacket ranked #5. I think it should've been #1 just because it's down in the dirt with the grunts... no special mission... no special anything. Just doin' their job. __________________ "When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different." - Jack Handey

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The Munster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deepest Dumbria Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Von Ryans Express .. Yuk .. goes on forever, hours upon hours of total rubbish Come to think of it, Where Eagles Dare is a bit like that too ?! __________________ *GWX Team Member; Retired* GWX Home Page

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Wasn't at all suprised to see Schindler's list in the top 10 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Well, I tend to overreact, mainly because I blew chunks when they got to the part in boot camp where the fat kid kills R. Lee Ermey. I had a hard time enjoying any of it after that. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo