Stupid US immigration bill is dead in the water! Woo Hoo!

[SUBMAN1]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3326016&page=1

The Senate drove a stake Thursday through President Bush's plan to legalize millions of unlawful immigrants,

Nice spin there. I think it was Kennedy-McCain, admittedly with Bush's support, who introduced the Bill.


Here is the roll on the cloture vote in case you wonder how your senators voted.
http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/ro...n=1&vote=00235

[geetrue]

This is a shocking turn around to me, Washington is like the weather sometimes.

From Fox News "We report you decide it"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287143,00.html

WASHINGTON — A defiant group of senators refused to continue down the path of a widely unpopular immigration reformbill Thursday, putting up a roadblock on a procedural debate and squeezing out any time left to work on one of President Bush's top domestic priorities.

On the cloture vote — the test to end debate and move to passage — the Senate voted 46-53 not to carry the motion. Sixty votes were needed for forward progress.

The tally is a turnaround of 18 votes from two days earlier. For varying reasons, six Democrats and 12 Republicans changed their votes to 'no' from a Tuesday vote that allowed the Senate to take up amendments on the bill. No one changed their votes to 'yes.'

A correction to my earlier post:

Bush is acting like it was his bill. If he wants it let him have it.........dummy.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I thank the members of the Senate and members of my administration who worked so hard on the border security and immigration reform bill. I'm sorry the Senate was unable to reach agreement on the bill this morning. Legal immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people, and Congress's failure to act on it is a disappointment. The American people understand the status quo is unacceptable when it comes to our immigration laws. A lot of us worked hard to see if we couldn't find common ground. It -- it didn't work. ...

[August]

Yeah smart move. The country seemed energized to kick someone in the short and curlys if this thing had passed.

[geetrue]

Look at this little blurb from the fox news report: Proves phone calls and talk shows work ...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287143,00.html

Originally Posted by Fox news report

Senate leaders began to see the writing on the wall as tallies for the necessary 60 votes showed critical support had been lost. Part of the change of heart was no doubt spurred by public opposition to the vote, spurred by talk radio hosts.
Opponents of the bill — Republican Sens. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, who had been a frequent guest on the radio circuit, and Jim DeMint of South Carolina — remarked on the Senate floor that the sergeant-at-arms' office told them that the volume of calls leading up to the immigration vote was so high it had crashed the phone system, and no one was able to get through during morning debate.
The phone calls that came in "did make a difference," DeMint said after the vote.

Originally Posted by geetrue

This is a shocking turn around to me, Washington is like the weather sometimes.

From Fox News "We report you decide it"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287143,00.html

WASHINGTON — A defiant group of senators refused to continue down the path of a widely unpopular immigration reformbill Thursday, putting up a roadblock on a procedural debate and squeezing out any time left to work on one of President Bush's top domestic priorities.

On the cloture vote — the test to end debate and move to passage — the Senate voted 46-53 not to carry the motion. Sixty votes were needed for forward progress.

The tally is a turnaround of 18 votes from two days earlier. For varying reasons, six Democrats and 12 Republicans changed their votes to 'no' from a Tuesday vote that allowed the Senate to take up amendments on the bill. No one changed their votes to 'yes.'

I think the turn came yesterday when the house leadership rejected the senate bill.

Originally Posted by geetrue

Look at this little blurb from the fox news report: Proves phone calls and talk shows work ...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287143,00.html

Over the last two or more weeks I've been calling my two senators about it every day.
One didn't listen. I guess we know how I'll vote with regards to him come election time.

[Tchocky]

So, is there going to be any change until after the next election?

Originally Posted by Tchocky

So, is there going to be any change until after the next election?

Probably nothing until '09 on immigration (too hot a topic for the proffessional Politician). Actually securing the border should be the top priority now.

[Tchocky]

Arg, focus on the hardest, the most serious issues first. There's so much time between here and '09

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Arg, focus on the hardest, the most serious issues first. There's so much time between here and '09

The next hurricane will take care of that, but at least we only have 16 and half months till we know who the next person with veto power will be.

[August]

I dont think they'll do border security without it being part of immigration reform. It would be too hard to get it (IR) passed on its own.

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Arg, focus on the hardest, the most serious issues first. There's so much time between here and '09

I'm not sure I know what you think is the most serious issue Tchocky, but going into a general election most folks running for president are white bread on any really contentious issue. Immigration reform has certainly turned into that.

I think the grass roots folks rose up against this bill because it left the most glaring symbol of its failure, unsecured borders, unaddressed or at least uncommunicated.

That is where my opposition came from. The flood has to stop before any clean up can begin.

Originally Posted by August

I dont think they'll do border security without it being part of immigration reform. It would be too hard to get it (IR) passed on its own.

And I think that will mean the downfall of any other reform. You have to stop the flood before any clean up can begin. Sounds like a broken record.