I feel sick

[TteFAboB]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

I'm really sore tonight, I can't even get out of my chair! My joints hurt like mad particularly my neck, I feel like I have been hung and lived to tell about it.

The worse part of all is I can't swallow without dreadful pain. Oh grief I'm not good. Anyway, there is always somebody worse off than me somewhere, so dunno what Im bitching about.

[Penelope_Grey]

have got docs appointment this afternoon.

[Penelope_Grey]

its a virus I have!

Rest a relaxation is what I need apparantly, and I'm getting plenty of that.

[Tchocky]

Ha, it's always a virus!

Did the doc tell you "there's a lot of it about" as well?

[Penelope_Grey]

LOL yes she said there was one going about.

I told her I feel like achey joints, and my nose is sort of half-blocked, no runny nose. Told her I was coughing and chesty. Which she said could be attributed to not smoking anymore on the weekends like I was. I said I stopped well over a month ago and have done all my coughing, this is to do with me being ill, not smoking.

So she came to the conclusion its a virus going about as others have described similar things, so she told me to take it easy to relax and try to get some fresh air, I have a handy dandy cough medicine now to help. So I'm not hacking my lungs up.

Gee, how lucky are you? Having this fine little summer cold, while the rest of us are tasked with the onerous burden of summertime.

Do the vitamin C think like suggested; 250mg every couple hour. Your body will tell you when you need more, i.e., you'll get all achey and chilly. Within 20 minutes of taking some vit C you'll get this wave of warmth that'll come over you. When you start to feel better, don't stop taking it (you'll relapse worse than you were originally - and for longer than otherwise too), but just start extending the times between doses.

You'll know when you're taking too much vit C, you'll get a loose stool. But if you eat really well, lots of vegatables, i.e., roughage, you may not notice this. Never take more'n 250mg vit C at one time (its too hard on the stomach). IF you're taking vit C, make sure you consume enough fluid to generate 2 qt of urine per day (that's only double normal output) minimum. Its a little known fact that most people are typically dehydrated on a normal day to day basis. Then when they feel rundown and tired because they're dehydrated, they drink coffee or tea, which only dehydrates them even more.

Obtain some zinc lozanges. Zinc citrate or gluconate is the preferred form, although zinc picolonate is acceptable too (forget the other form of zinc). The lozenges are formulated with 23mg zinc & 60mg vit C, and perhaps eschinachae. You're supposed to suck on the lozenges. Trust me, you'd rather suck on zinc citrate/gluconate than zinc picolonate (blech!). Follow the directions exactly. Take the zinc lozenges for like two days (2 1/2 days max). Then like every other day take one. This will help address chest congestion. You have to be careful with the zinc, because if a side affect will be chest congestion. However, this is the good type of congestion. Zinc is an essential nutrient for the production of macrophages. Macrophages are scavanger white cells. You want those cruising around your system and in your lungs. They eat damaged cells (especially weak and injured killer T-cells that have been busy consuming virus that's been tagged by antibodies).

Supplement your mega-dose of vit C with 1/2 a high-B complex every day. That and consuming sufficient fluids to urinate two quarts per day will minimize whatever small (but real) risk there may be for kidney stone formation inherent with mega dose regemin of vitamin C. But as a prophalactic one shouldn't be concerned too much with that. Kidney stone formation becomes a significant concern with taken for long periods of time (months and months).

Vit C is water soluble, so whatever can't be absorbed will flush overboard. 98% of vitamin C is stored in the white blood cell. The remaining 2% goes into solution in the plasma, the remainder is flushed overboard. Its been demonstrated empiracally that white blood cells in an acidic solution are more mobile and aggressive than otherwise.

My suggestion is to avoid taking cough suppressant in the morning. Taking an expectorant will assist in that regard. Avoid cough suppresants until after lunch. Try to be outside in the morning when you're doing all your coughing. Typically coughing is worst first thing in the morning. So you want to work with that, not againt it.

Spray copious quantites of aerosol disinfectant frequently around the domicile. Soak your teethbrush in a sodium hypoclorite solution, i.e. 1 tsp/ 8 oz water or so. Rinse well before using. Snot rags go into the toilette, and not the trash bin. The snot dries out and whatever virus it contains will aerosolize when you dump the trash.

Finally, feed a cold and starve a fever. If you start to get chills, check for a fever. If you have a fever, take a hot shower (as hot as you can stand it for 10 minutes). Then dry off completely, take some vit C and then jump under the covers. Do this everytime you get the chills. If you wake up and the covers are soaked, change them immediately, take a hot shower (as hot as you can stand it), take some vit C, and then jump under the covers. Once you start to get hot, but not sweating (and without the chills), then the fever has broken and you're on your way to recovery. DO NOT abate suddenly taking the vitamin C no matter how well you feel. You MUST wean yourself off of it like a junkie.

A normal maintanance of vitamin C is 250mg every other day or so, or the equivalent or 1/2 gallon of OJ (or equivalent/day). That's just maintenance dose. AS SOON AS ONE FEELS SOMETHING COMING ON, that's when the maintenance dose should be doubled without hesitation. If symptoms progress, then keep doubling the dose until one is taking vit C every 1/2 hour, or they get the Hershey's Squirts. By then one is truly sick, and I mean that with a capital I.

Primates are the only animals that don't produce vit C and rely on sufficient intake of appropriate dietary sources. Other animals such as dogs and cats have been demonstrated to produce in excess of 10g of vit C per hour in their livers during times of intense stress, illness and especially trauma. The MRDA for vit C is 60mg (that's a lot of OJ as it is). This is absurdly low and is the minimum to prevent scurvy. Scurvy is a symptom of deficiency, and the MRDA says nothing about how much is actually needed for optimum bodily function. Vit C is a critical component necessary for the formation of collagen; that's connective tissue.

It won't hurt to supplement one's short-term regimin of megadose vit c with a capsule of beta carotene and some vit E. Both of these are anti-oxidants, and beta carotene is the precursor to vit A. Both have implicated functionality with respect to the immune system.

[The Munster]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

LOL yes she said there was one going about.

I told her I feel like achey joints, and my nose is sort of half-blocked, no runny nose. Told her I was coughing and chesty. Which she said could be attributed to not smoking anymore on the weekends like I was. I said I stopped well over a month ago and have done all my coughing, this is to do with me being ill, not smoking.

So she came to the conclusion its a virus going about as others have described similar things, so she told me to take it easy to relax and try to get some fresh air, I have a handy dandy cough medicine now to help. So I'm not hacking my lungs up.

Did you tell the Doctor that it's nothing to do with stopping smoking even though she said it could be attributed to not smoking anymore ?
Reality check here .. it takes Months if not Years for your internals to rid the crap that has accumulated in your system.

[d@rk51d3]

I went to the doc a while back because I had lost the hearing in my left side. I thought it was probably just an ear infection, but losing ones hearing can prompt a little action on ones part. Anyway, the good doc tells me he cant tell what the problem was because it was all inflamed and infected......?!?!?!?!?


Here, take these antibiotics, the probably won't do anything, but they might......

........NEXT!


Needless to say, I ain't been back.

[Penelope_Grey]

Originally Posted by Kpt. Munson

Reality check here .. it takes Months if not Years for your internals to rid the crap that has accumulated in your system.

Yeah but, some doctors would blame the common cold on smoking if they could. So I'm always dubious when if you are unwell and you go to a doctor and say so, they ask do you smoke, and if you say yes, most will be "there's your reason"

I am dubious is due to my friend, not the other one who I told you guys before is pregnant. The one I grew up with, she smoked precisely, one cigarette in her entire life. Only the one. I started smoking the day after my 16th birthday once I became legal, and just for the record, even though I had one more year of school left to go and GCSE's to sit, I never smoked in school ever and kept my weekend routine. It was cigars I went for when I got going as my father smoked cigars and I was having one or two on a weekend, I quite enjoyed them I admit. 6 months after I started to smoke I eventually got round to smoking a couple of menthol cigarettes, my mother suggested I not smoke a cigar when out with my mates so it was a good idea, and I quite liked menthol cigs.

Anyway, the point is, my friend, she never smoked before in her life. She asked could she try a cigarette. So I gave it to her without any fuss because if it was fine for me, it woudl be fine for her I assumed. So she sat smoking this one cigarette (properly too I may add) at the end of it, she threw up and was sick. She never touched another cigarette or anything that could be smoked after that, it was her first and last.

Fast forward 2 years later, she goes to the doctor with problems in her chest. What does the doctor ask her? "Do you smoke?" "no" she replies, and the doctor had to refer her because he didn't know what the cause of her chest complaints was. Turns out she had a abnormality with her heart and was making her feel unwell. Had she took up smoking that day, he would have just told her to cut down or quit.

Hence, since then I have been of the mind, yes smoking causes a LOT of problems, but I hardly think its the cause of EVERY health complaint, doctors are far too quick to use it as a scapegoat.

Penelope_Grey sorry to hear that you sick I hope you will feel better soon

[Sledgehammer427]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Onion in hot milk in case of sore throat.
Ocean salt in body-warm water for gargling, and rinsing the nose.
Lots of Vitamine-C, sipping it every hour in hot tea, for example.
Hot shower, staying warm afterwards to sweat as much as possible.
Sleep.
More sleep.
Much more sleep.
Aspirin at best - no more medication.

can i get an OOO-rah?

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Onion in hot milk in case of sore throat.
Ocean salt in body-warm water for gargling, and rinsing the nose.
Lots of Vitamine-C, sipping it every hour in hot tea, for example.
Hot shower, staying warm afterwards to sweat as much as possible.
Sleep.
More sleep.
Much more sleep.
Aspirin at best - no more medication.

Damn. I wish I had seen this thread late last week. I have had the flu since Thursday and only now am I getting over it. Strange time of year here for so many people to be struck down with this flu that is going around. My entire office has had it over the last couple of weeks.

[The Avon Lady]

Just great!

We're traveling to the UK.

Had our flu shots this past winter but I'm sure they don't cover viruses traveling down the wrong side of the artery.